[Preppy Climber]

Never heard this! Like humbled the clerk?

The meaning can vary, from being put in an embarrassing situation to getting what you deserve. Like the other day, when my husband drove our RV into a gas station. We were waiting for a gas pump to open and this woman drove up behind us and immediately began honking her horn at us because our RV "was in the way." I turned to look at her and she had this pissed off look on her face, waving her hands all over the place yelling at us, but I couldn't hear what she was saying. I was like "WTF??" and did a very bad thing and said a few choice words and flipped her off. My husband had left sufficient space between the car in front of us and our RV, so the irate woman then tried to weasle her way in between to get to the other side but my quick-on-the-draw husband moved the RV up a few feet thus blocking her. As I said to my husband, "She got moded to the max!" The woman immediately backed up and sped away, not getting gas or whatever she was planning to do at the gas station. As she was driving away, she returned the flipping off favor. 🤣

Had the woman not been honking her horn and yelling and such, my husband would have kindly let her through. In fact, just a minute prior, he did let another driver through and we all smiled and nodded in respect toward each other.

Moded might be a California thing. I remember it being a popular slang word in the 80s among young folk.

 

[revahS]

The meaning can vary, from being put in an embarrassing situation to getting what you deserve. Like the other day, when my husband drove our RV into a gas station. We were waiting for a gas pump to open and this woman drove up behind us and immediately began honking her horn at us because our RV "was in the way." I turned to look at her and she had this pissed off look on her face, waving her hands all over the place yelling at us, but I couldn't hear what she was saying. I was like "WTF??" and did a very bad thing and said a few choice words and flipped her off. My husband had left sufficient space between the car in front of us and our RV, so the irate woman then tried to weasle her way in between to get to the other side but my quick-on-the-draw husband moved the RV up a few feet thus blocking her. As I said to my husband, "She got moded to the max!" The woman immediately backed up and sped away, not getting gas or whatever she was planning to do at the gas station. As she was driving away, she returned the flipping off favor. 🤣

Had the woman not been honking her horn and yelling and such, my husband would have kindly let her through. In fact, just a minute prior, he did let another driver through and we all smiled and nodded in respect toward each other.

Moded might be a California thing. I remember it being a popular slang word in the 80s among young folk.

I have visions of our innocent looking Lil C, customary broad grin become a snarl, Latina spitfire in longwings. 😍

 

[revahS]

I think if you offer someone something in the vein of athleisure that is more comfortable than the conventional clothing they used to wear, offer it at a low price, and hint that the logo, likely sports oriented, will make them a tiny bit more cool, they will buy it. They may not even know about microplastics and certainly do not care. They probably have zero or close to zero experience with natural fibers. They have never worn a sack suit or jacket, a wool sweater, a full cut OCBD, or a pair of high quality, well fitting leather shoes with leather soles. They have no reason to think their outfit of workout gear is suboptimal. Even if they stop short of going the full blown athleisure route and stick with Dockers, a polyester polo, and a pair of Skechers, the same principles apply. It is almost unimaginable that you can convince them to pay more, probably a lot more, for clothing no one they know wears, clothing that is never in style, clothing that requires maintenance, clothing that will last a long time, ensuring they will stay out of step with their mainstream peers.

And then there is the issue of our bodies. Stretch clothing is one solution, tailoring is another, and then there is the prospect of healthy eating and exercise. Which one will most pick?

In order to buy into something outside the norm requires thoughtfulness and confidence, two things that are in short supply. It is not really a classic moral failing, but it is symptomatic of indifference to the world, and that can be viewed as a moral failing of large proportions.

My final thought is about class. Our society is stratified in new and different ways. The future will possibly have more Amazon workers, more service sector workers, wealthier owners of large businesses, and less in between. How will clothing play into this?

Initially, great thread @fishertw 🏅

From a British perspective, the first adults, that I am readily able to recall, who continued to wear juvenile clothes seemed to be members of the criminal fraternity.

To this day, if I see a chap my age in sneakers, a hoodie and a baseball cap I assume he's a wrong 'un.

 

[Preppy Climber]

I have visions of our innocent looking Lil C, customary broad grin become a snarl, Latina spitfire in longwings. 😍

I read your comment to my husband and his response, "Yep, that's my little chihuahua." He says I'm all bark and no bite.

 

[Tiger]

I read your comment to my husband and his response, "Yep, that's my little chihuahua." He says I'm all bark and no bite.

The most convincing way to prove your husband wrong is to whoop his ass!

 

[cosmotoast]

I live in Georgia and 90% of the population here dress like hobos and slobs. They don't even dress well for church. The only people who dress nice are lawyers going to court. I have a huge wardrobe of sport coats ties and fine leather shoes but often times friends and family greet me with "you think you're better than us" any time I try to dress nice. Sometimes I feel like it's hopeless.

 

[revahS]

I live in Georgia and 90% of the population here dress like hobos and slobs. They don't even dress well for church. The only people who dress nice are lawyers going to court. I have a huge wardrobe of sport coats ties and fine leather shoes but often times friends and family greet me with "you think you're better than us" any time I try to dress nice. Sometimes I feel like it's hopeless.

Wait. What?

"You think you're better than us" is a criticism?

I had always presumed it to be a bald statement of fact. 😉

 

[ran23]

On a side note: I walked thru a building of lots of office women till I got back to the Manager's office. He asked how I got back there, on my tool belt was a telephone handset, women just pointed to the back utility room.

 

[jackcatscal]

Still actively employed at 66, I wear a blazer every day after 30 plus years of suit and tie.

I manage commercial property across NYS and I remember taking an intern of our firm through an office building. We walked basically everywhere I wanted with the various companies employees looking at us but not reacting as in "what are you doing here walking through our office unattended"?

During our curbside chat he expressed amazement that no one stopped or questioned us.

I told him the that there are only two people who can walk through a place of business unmolested: Being well dressed or carrying a ladder.

Still actively employed at 66, I wear a blazer every day after 30 plus years of suit and tie.

I manage commercial property across NYS and I remember taking an intern of our firm through an office building. We walked basically everywhere I wanted with the various companies employees looking at us but not reacting as in "what are you doing here walking through our office unattended"?

During our curbside chat he expressed amazement that no one stopped or questioned us.

I told him the that there are only two people who can walk through a place of business unmolested: Being well dressed or carrying a ladder.

…or a clipboard.

 

[cdavant]

I just realized that I have been a member here for almost 20 years. Few members of that time are still around and posting. My wife and I moved into a retirement community here in Asheville three years ago this week. I was a university administrator for 35 years prior to that. Since being here, among largely successful and well educated people, there are only a few of the men who seem to have any sense of or care for dressing nicely. Many women do and it nice to see well turned out ladies. My usual daily wear includes khakis, either polo in warmer weather or an OCBD in cooler temps, leather shoes, (usually Alden or Rancourt loafers of some sort) and sweaters, decent coats or jackets in cold weather etc. I think I can count on one hand others who seem to follow a similar path. We do mingle daily at meals, various gatherings etc and very prominent are hiking pants, jeans, tee shirts, various sorts of running shoes or hiking shoes and generally a much more informal dress. I posted recently here about the 50th anniversary of the Givens Retirement Community where we live and that at the 50th anniversary party, I and one other resident wore a sport coat. I find that sad.

What I do not understand is why the vast majority of other men here do not seem to care how they present themselves. Most all residents have had successful careers in education, the ministry, business or other more professional endeavors. I'm just amazed at the seemingly uncaring about how folks present themselves even on special occasions. I recall seeing a post early in my time on this forum about the decline in small higher quality mens stores and I do know that trend continues here almost 20 years later. Hunter and Coggins in Asheville, Eljos in Charlottesville and a goodly number of others add to that original list that was posted 20 years ago.

Any thoughts by current members would be most welcome and I always enjoy seeing new (non bot) members and welcoming kindred souls.!
Tom

I'm closing in on 20 years here. Sorry we never met in person--we were only a few miles apart. I spotted you once at the Best Caller a few years ago, but you were gone before I got a chance. If you've not been back to Boone recently, you will find the congestion and construction almost beyond belief.
I am still practicing geriatric medicine halftime. Office only. I still wear a tie to work--mainly because I have for almost 50 years and probably have a couple of hundred. And I still wear mostly AEs and Aldens all bought on Ebay 10 years ago. I still have 3 pairs of AE PAs in my shoe tree test. One fully treed, one left treed and one right treed. I wear them in rotation and after several hundred wearings I see no real benefit from trees.
Folks just don't dress up anymore. I have half-a-dozen suits that might still fit, but I never have occassion to wear a suit. Most of my country club events list the dress as "Country Club Casual" that is "Jacket no tie." I wear black tie once or twice a year.
We have truly lived through several golden ages. And now I go to put on all white--at least there is still a dress code for croquet...
Hope you have a couple of croquet coutrs in Asheville

 

[doncorleon]

What I do not understand is why the vast majority of other men do not seem to care how they present themselves.

I don't grasp this either.

It doesn't even take much effort. Get a haircut once a month. Shave or trim your facial hair. Have basic hygiene. And have a few button shirts (not just graphic t's).

Women are expected to put in 10x as much effort (hair, makeup, etc) and lots of men can't even do the bare minimum.

 

[Vecchio Vespa]

I don't grasp this either.

It doesn't even take much effort. Get a haircut once a month. Shave or trim your facial hair. Have basic hygiene. And have a few button shirts (not just graphic t's).

Women are expected to put in 10x as much effort (hair, makeup, etc) and lots of men can't even do the bare minimum.

So who expects women to do 10x?

 

[Howard]

I don't grasp this either.

It doesn't even take much effort. Get a haircut once a month. Shave or trim your facial hair. Have basic hygiene. And have a few button shirts (not just graphic t's).

Women are expected to put in 10x as much effort (hair, makeup, etc) and lots of men can't even do the bare minimum.

I agree, Don.

 

[Hyacinth]

So who expects women to do 10x?

DonCorleon = Patriarchy VV = Feminist?

 

[ChipWms]

I actually had one of my golfing partners tell me that I looked like a J Crew ad yesterday! While I wasn't actually wearing anything J Crew, I still took it as a compliment. Since I'm in a rural area, I also get the "thinks he's better than us" vibe sometime, but I don't care much about that. I have yard work clothes too; I just don't wear them in public.

 

[fishertw]

I'm closing in on 20 years here. Sorry we never met in person--we were only a few miles apart. I spotted you once at the Best Caller a few years ago, but you were gone before I got a chance. If you've not been back to Boone recently, you will find the congestion and construction almost beyond belief.
I am still practicing geriatric medicine halftime. Office only. I still wear a tie to work--mainly because I have for almost 50 years and probably have a couple of hundred. And I still wear mostly AEs and Aldens all bought on Ebay 10 years ago. I still have 3 pairs of AE PAs in my shoe tree test. One fully treed, one left treed and one right treed. I wear them in rotation and after several hundred wearings I see no real benefit from trees.
Folks just don't dress up anymore. I have half-a-dozen suits that might still fit, but I never have occassion to wear a suit. Most of my country club events list the dress as "Country Club Casual" that is "Jacket no tie." I wear black tie once or twice a year.
We have truly lived through several golden ages. And now I go to put on all white--at least there is still a dress code for croquet...
Hope you have a couple of croquet coutrs in Asheville

Dr Davant, it'n nice to hear from you again as well. I too am sorry we never met in person. My life here is pretty good. I do understand that Boone is continuing to grow and that John Winkler is taking over BR as he has Boone. That's where a good deal of the congestion is coming from. I do not get back to Boone much although my granddaughter is a rising Sophomore at ASU. She's from Texas and is the G granddaughter of the people who named Yosef in the 1940's. My wife has had various health issues and I find myself as primary care giver so we do not travel much. While we do not have any croquet courts here at Givens, we do have a pretty active pickleball and Bocce programs. I'm pretty much still a clothes nut and just received a long awaited pair of Rancourt bit loafers and have a Press Prince of Wales sport coat on order. Given that, I have only worn a jacket a few times since being here but we do have season tickets for the upcoming Asheville Symphony series, so I'm prepared. Glad you are still enjoying practicing. If you ever get the chance to encourage some folks to develop a CCRC in Boone/BR, I think it would fill up with ASU retirees and others very quickly. We are in Asheville due to the very fact that there is no equivalent in that area.
Stay well and thanks again for saying Hello.
Tom

 

[revahS]

Patriarchy VV

Patriarchy Alert! ⚠ ⚠

 

[Clintotron]

I'm personally trying to convert people, person by person. I start with a comment about how differently people treat you when you're well-dressed. Once that seed is planted, I look for opportunities to reinforce it. That's me, making a difference, one person at a time. When I travel by plane, always a sport coat. Same for Dr's office, or restaurant. It's true; people treat you differently when you dress well. More polite, more respectful, more accommodating. It's magic!

Similar mission. My career is certainly blue collar, however blue/white my collar seems in my facility. When I travelled for work in a similar role, I ALWAYS wore dress shoes (or cowboy boots), pressed jeans or slacks, an OCBD and jacket (occasionally a tie or odd vest). EVERY time I flew (and it was often) I was at the least: treated well, at the best: upgraded/comped. I have had luck winning some over from the dark side, but there are still many to go.

 

[Vecchio Vespa]

DonCorleon = Patriarchy VV = Feminist?

I prefer to think of myself as a personist rather than a feminist. Everyone should be who they were created to be, and we should support them in that quest. Happy Pentecost, the most important feast day of the church year, even though it gets almost no air play.

 

[Vecchio Vespa]

Patriarchy Alert! ⚠ ⚠

I thought (hoped) there ought to be a semicolon between Patriarchy and VV. 😜