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Discussion starter · #42 ·
zzdocxx said:
Agreed.
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The Great Garbanzo said:
Still actively employed at 66, I wear a blazer every day after 30 plus years of suit and tie.

I manage commercial property across NYS and I remember taking an intern of our firm through an office building. We walked basically everywhere I wanted with the various companies employees looking at us but not reacting as in "what are you doing here walking through our office unattended"?

During our curbside chat he expressed amazement that no one stopped or questioned us.

I told him the that there are only two people who can walk through a place of business unmolested: Being well dressed or carrying a ladder.
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All i lack is a ladder! You can also carry a clipboard. I walked around many times in the Air Force with a clipboard and a cup of coffee and people thought I was working.
 
#43 ·
I didn't mean to open the hornet's nest. I'm just making the point that men can look really good even with a little bit of effort.

Like wearing a solid neutral color tshirt + overshirt instead of a graphic tee. Matching the belt and shoes. etc. etc.
 
#44 ·
I like this line of thinking. So what are some of these basics? The etc. etc's? You listed 2 good ones. Can we start a list of these rules of thumb? Or maybe I should start this as a new conversation....
 
#45 ·
doncorleon said:
I didn't mean to open the hornet's nest. I'm just making the point that men can look really good even with a little bit of effort.

Like wearing a solid neutral color tshirt + overshirt instead of a graphic tee. Matching the belt and shoes. etc. etc.
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If you're wearing white (or off-white) shoes, what colour should your belt be?
 
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ChipWms said:
I like this line of thinking. So what are some of these basics? The etc. etc's? You listed 2 good ones. Can we start a list of these rules of thumb? Or maybe I should start this as a new conversation....
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I think it's on topic. For the average guy trying to be a little bit more elevated, I would recommend:

Fit
  • Take your measurements. Wear clothes that fit (and you can freely move your arms/legs around them)
Colors
  • Get solid neutral-color T shirts (black, white, cream, grey)
  • Get your essential clothes in neutral colors so they're versatile
  • Limit yourself to 2 non-neutral colors.
  • Try not to get too much of the same color. For example, instead of having 8 pairs of blue jeans, you could do 1 black, 1 light grey, 1 dark grey, 1 blue, 1 light blue, etc.
Overall Tips
  • Get rid of the graphic t's athletic wear, sports jerseys, heavily branded clothes, etc.
  • Wear two-layers (i.e. shirt + jacket or undershirt + overshirt)
  • You don't need to be dressy everyday, but at least have a few buttondowns and a pair of smart shoes.
Accessories
  • 2-4 small tasteful accessories (i.e. necklace, watch, bracelet, earrings, etc.).
^ A lot of this is really basic stuff that anyone can wear in day to day life. You don't need to spend a ton of money.
 
#48 ·
doncorleon said:
I think it's on topic. For the average guy trying to be a little bit more elevated, I would recommend:

Fit
  • Take your measurements. Wear clothes that fit (and you can freely move your arms/legs around them)
Colors
  • Get solid neutral-color T shirts (black, white, cream, grey)
  • Get your essential clothes in neutral colors so they're versatile
  • Limit yourself to 2 non-neutral colors.
  • Try not to get too much of the same color. For example, instead of having 8 pairs of blue jeans, you could do 1 black, 1 light grey, 1 dark grey, 1 blue, 1 light blue, etc.
Overall Tips
  • Get rid of the graphic t's athletic wear, sports jerseys, heavily branded clothes, etc.
  • Wear two-layers (i.e. shirt + jacket or undershirt + overshirt)
  • You don't need to be dressy everyday, but at least have a few buttondowns and a pair of smart shoes.
Accessories
  • 2-4 small tasteful accessories (i.e. necklace, watch, bracelet, earrings, etc.).
^ A lot of this is really basic stuff that anyone can wear in day to day life. You don't need to spend a ton of money.
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This is a great start. Well thought out. I would add "clean" to the list.
 
#53 ·
Vecchio Vespa said:
The only time in my life I wore a white belt the United States Navy made me do it.
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I wore a white one in the navy back in the 80's too, and may or may not have worn one in the 70's as a kid. Lots of questionable fashion choices in the 70's. I don't remember a white belt specifically, but I did have a brown one, extra wide, with 3 prongs for extra holding power I guess. Stylish....
 
#56 ·
What does "moded" mean when you use it in that context?

Preppy Climber said:
Reminds me of the "Pretty Woman" scene in which Julia Roberts' character was treated poorly at a high-end clothing store and I think I remember the sales clerk asking her to leave the store because of the way she was dressed. Julia moded* the clerk later when she came back dressed more "respectfully."

*Does anyone else but my husband and me use that word anymore?
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#58 ·
53 and still working. About a year ago I decided to dress in the way I am most comfortable, which for me is either a suit, blazer, pants, and tie, or sweater and tie. I have a job where I can get away with this as I’m a director and a healthcare organization.

The attire that I see in our organization amongst leadership very significantly. However, most of our senior leaders do still dress formally, neatly, and with a gentle degree of sophistication.

All is not lost, but the winds of change are still not blowing in our direction yet.
 
#59 ·
cosmotoast said:
I live in Georgia and 90% of the population here dress like hobos and slobs. They don't even dress well for church. The only people who dress nice are lawyers going to court. I have a huge wardrobe of sport coats ties and fine leather shoes but often times friends and family greet me with "you think you're better than us" any time I try to dress nice. Sometimes I feel like it's hopeless.
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I can completely empathize with your situation. It’s funny how so many people who are against dressing nicely seem to put pressure on those of us who do, and then they state that they are the contrarians fighting against the pressure of conformity.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Dressing poorly has become shockingly, common, and I believe that when person dress as well the population feels threatened.
 
#60 ·
zzdocxx said:
All true, but what is driving this ?

I surmise there is something more than moral weakness going on.

I read that the wealthy in for example NYC, used to live in townhouses right on the street. But now they wish that their wealth is not on display, and they tend to want to live in secluded privacy.

I'm trying to think if I read this in the book "Class: A Guide Through the American Status System". A fascinating book recommended by a member here several years back.

So I just wonder if there is some kind of social pressure. Or if economics has contributed. Eg. going from a society where typically a wife would stay at home and care for the house and kids and possibly get laundering organized, etc.

Just throwing it out there. Like so many other things that have changed in our society, can we blame it on moral failing as if people are living in a vacuum?

I suppose that is a question for the sociologists.

Cheers everyone !

;)
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Wealthy People in NYC are terrified to be called out by the soon to be "socialist" mayor (Who grew up in the lap of luxury-Gee where have I heard that before?) So as to not ignite the hatred of the plebes.
 
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