Of course Felton doesn't pay attention. He's a leghumper.

As for his assistants, one would expect such sartorial excess from the ultimate evil in the universe that is uga. Satan only recently retired as the AD in Athens.

bp

 

Don't people generally wear the first button unbuttoned on the cuffs to show the detail in the jacket? I was told to leave my first button undone to show how much hand work was done on a coat. They're called surgeon cuffs, because doctors would need to unbutton them to roll up their sleeves and operate. Regular "unsmart" folks didn't need them, hence didn't pay the money for hand stitched button holes.

 

Don't people generally wear the first button unbuttoned on the cuffs to show the detail in the jacket? I was told to leave my first button undone to show how much hand work was done on a coat. T

I can only hope that you don't apply this logic to your MTM button fly pants.:icon_smile_big:

bp

 

I can only hope that you don't apply this logic to your MTM button fly pants.:icon_smile_big:

bp

Only around certain people when my wife isn't looking...:icon_smile_big:

 

Only around certain people when my wife isn't looking...:icon_smile_big:

Well played.

My cuff buttons will remained buttoned.

I will however be adopting a new way of wearing my button flys. :icon_smile_big:

bp

 

Unbuttoned cuffs

There are two distinct views on such displays (and this would include monograms, can't think of what else). If you leave your button undone, some people won't notice. Some people will. Of those who will, some will think, there's something wrong with his suit cuff.

Of those who know what surgeon cuff's are, some will think:

1. There's a fellow with a very fine, hand made suit.

Others will think:

2. There's a fellow who wants everyone to know how fine his suit is, how much money it cost, how much money he has.

A really good, well-made, well fitting suit, matched with good shoes, shirt and tie, is going to impress most all of the people who will be impressed with your surgeon cuffs and won't inspire nearly so much of the second sort of thinking. (Though it will inspire some.)

My advice, get your monogram on your shirt tail, or, if you must put it on your cuffs, do it in a very soft off-white.

Cheers,
David

 

And then there was Brad Pitt's character from "Ocean's 13" who had the first 2 buttons undone.

 

For what it's worth, and not with the intent of starting a new argument, I also couldn't help but notice that one of the Georgia assistance coaches had on a black suit with a black shirt and a dark red tie. Make what jokes you will, the guy looked really sharp.

Sharp or not, those are UGA's colors, aren't they?

 

Sharp or not, those are UGA's colors, aren't they?

Yes they are uga's colors. Of course they are not sharp.

bp

 

Damn bp, your starting to give me the distinct impression that you didn't go to Georgia. Georgia Tech perhaps? :icon_smile_big:

Cruiser

 

Damn bp, your starting to give me the distinct impression that you didn't go to Georgia. Georgia Tech perhaps? :icon_smile_big:

Cruiser

I'll give you a couple of hints. though you would have to be a long time college football fan to get them.

Fourth and Dumb.

Run L*****y Run. L*****y F**kin' S***t.

Yes I can rock orange and royal blue, difficult as that may be.

bp

 

There are two distinct views on such displays (and this would include monograms, can't think of what else). If you leave your button undone, some people won't notice. Some people will. Of those who will, some will think, there's something wrong with his suit cuff.

Of those who know what surgeon cuff's are, some will think:

1. There's a fellow with a very fine, hand made suit.

Others will think:

2. There's a fellow who wants everyone to know how fine his suit is, how much money it cost, how much money he has.

A really good, well-made, well fitting suit, matched with good shoes, shirt and tie, is going to impress most all of the people who will be impressed with your surgeon cuffs and won't inspire nearly so much of the second sort of thinking. (Though it will inspire some.)

My advice, get your monogram on your shirt tail, or, if you must put it on your cuffs, do it in a very soft off-white.

Cheers,
David

+1...

 

I'll give you a couple of hints. though you would have to be a long time college football fan to get them.

And that's exactly what I am. Yes, I remember Lindsay Scott's 92 yard touchdown run to beat the Gators and I can hear Larry Munson making the call. Of course up here on old Rocky Top we don't really give a hoot in hell for either of those teams. Go Big Orange, the new #1 in college basketball as of tonight. :icon_smile_big:

Cruiser

 

This issue was discussed at length a couple of months ago: https://askandyaboutclothes.com/community/showthread.php?t=77011&highlight=unbutton.

At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter that much. I've never seen the buttoned or unbuttoned status of one's jacket cuffs make or break an outfit. If your outfit is otherwise ugly or in bad taste, unbuttoned cuffs are suddenly going to look affected and buttoned cuffs aren't going to save you. On the other hand, if you look good, no one's eyes are going to dart to your jacket cuffs.

Personally, I tend to leave a button or two undone. I like having my cuffs more open, like my jacket.

 

And that's exactly what I am. Yes, I remember Lindsay Scott's 92 yard touchdown run to beat the Gators and I can hear Larry Munson making the call. Of course up here on old Rocky Top we don't really give a hoot in hell for either of those teams. Go Big Orange, the new #1 in college basketball as of tonight. :icon_smile_big:

Cruiser

Do you really want to go there? Phil lives to make our season start successfully. Of course, Gator players are motivated. They know that hearing RockyTop 4,372 times in one three hour period is the chief cause of serial killers in the US. :icon_smile_big:

Seriously though congrats on taking out the pretenders. I love watching Pearl's teams in spite of the fact they don't know the proper shade of orange. Keep that crystal warm for us. We'll be reclaiming it in 09.

bp

 

Don't people generally wear the first button unbuttoned on the cuffs to show the detail in the jacket? I was told to leave my first button undone to show how much hand work was done on a coat. They're called surgeon cuffs.

Although slightly off topic I'm wondering if there are any old Navy men here who remember "liberty cuffs". Sailors would have silk cloth with dragons and such on them sewn inside their jumper cuffs. There were many places in Japan that did this, although I think you could get them in San Diego also. After they were off the ship on liberty they would then unbutton their cuffs and turn them up displaying the colorful silk designs underneath.

Very non-regulation; however, so were the gabardine uniforms that many sailors had custom made in Japan which they wore on liberty in place of the heavy 16 oz. wool military issue uniform. Does anyone remember this?

Cruiser

 

While discussing this topic some time ago here on the forums, someone posted a pretty good rule I thought:

If you have to ask, you probably can't pull it off.

Although, some may not want to pull it off at all. Really a preference thing, but like with anything else, must be worn with confidence.

 

buttoned == stealth style

I like them buttoned. No need to advertise.
The fit of the suit should tell the story, not the buttons.

 

i always leave them buttoned up.

however i unbutton them when i'm ironing/steaming/hanging in the bathroom the suit while i shower after it has been packed up and needs some relief. one time i forgot to do up the buttons as i was in a hurry to get down to the family function i'd travelled for. the first comments i got after being appraised by a sibling and a cousin (at the same time) were not nice, and they were specifically about the unbuttoned cuffs. i laughed, buttoned, and its never happened again.

 

When you get your first few bespoke/MTM suits, you're going to leave a button or three undone, because you can and it's a novelty. Later, you know better.

 

When you get your first few bespoke/MTM suits, you're going to leave a button or three undone, because you can and it's a novelty. Later, you know better.

Amen!

 

Only around certain people when my wife isn't looking...:icon_smile_big:

Might we consider that merely a "flash of the not so obvious(!)?"

 

I leave a button undone - because I can. I wear a discrete suit, with a discrete shirt, discrete links a discrete tie and discrete shoes.

I don't regard a button undone as flash because I take the view that all things need to be seen in context. I have working cuffs because I need them to work (in my case to allow my shirt cuffs and watch to protrude from my jacket sleeve). If I didn't need them to work, why would I have them? If you do not need to open your bottom button then your sleeve isn't properly cut

 

I leave a button undone - because I can. I wear a discrete suit, with a discrete shirt, discrete links a discrete tie and discrete shoes.

Perhaps you mean "discreet", as in "having or showing discernment or good judgment in conduct and especially in speech" ? I hope hope that your various articles of clothing are discrete, separate entities -- jumpsuits look awful!

As far as needing to have the cuff unbuttoned or the sleeve is ill-cut, I've not heard that before.

 

Presumably because the jacket sleeve should - historically/traditionally - prevent the shirt sleeve from riding low? Unbuttoning the jacket sleev would thus allow it to be shown.

That's only a guess though.