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Thom Browne's Tenth Rule - a genuinely bad idea...

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#1 ·
I was appalled to read an article in Esquire this month where TB lays out both some good and bizarre clothing rules as part of a story where a normal sized guy gets fitted for a TB suit, highwater pants and all.

Apparently Thom suggested ten rules for the suit and one was the following:

Never wear socks with dress shoes with my suit.

Now okay, I can see the retro 60s appeal of the skinny lapel suit for TB and skinny guys all over but this is just silly and yet dangerous advice.

Think of all the skinny guys who will adopt this fashion and ruin a good pair of leather oxfords in short order.

Not to mention how bad the sockless look in a suit.

I do give Esquire credit for a creative story angle.
 
#6 ·
Congratulations!

You took the bait.

He wanted to get your goat and he did. He wanted attention and you paid it to him.

Clothing adapts to every fashion, and even many Browne followers don't go all the way.

Many men who follow the current bare-ankle look buy very low socks that do not show outside the shoe, which still separate foot from shoe but still allow the nude look.
 
#8 ·
Artisan Fan:

Consider the source of the "rules"! :icon_smile:
Absolutely! I cannot recall anytime in recent memory a worse "fashion" look than the current Thom Browne offerings, whether under his label or in the new BB Black Fleece. The look is horrendous, its wearers look ludicrous, so much so that one wonders if this isn't some massive retaliation upon the public for some real or imagined childhood slight on the part M. Browne. The absence of socks is but a flea on an really ugly elephant's behind.
 
#10 · (Edited)
I have seen a picture of him wearing socks. Would be nice if he stuck to what he said.

The satorialist shot one, or the circulation to his feet was cut off and his legs went black, or he polished his shoes and his legs at the same time.
 
#18 ·
I have been reading about Thom Brown for about two years as pictures of his collections have provided my wife and I much amusement. What amazes me is that anyone takes him seriously. Designer of the Year? A favorite of Anna Wintour? BROOKS BROTHERS?! There is not one human being who looks good in his clohes, including him, so how is it that this silliness continues? I have been predicting that he will fail utterly, because consumers will reject clothing that is so fundamentally unflattering.

Does anyone feel otherwise?
 
#19 ·
I have been reading about Thom Brown for about two years as pictures of his collections have provided my wife and I much amusement. What amazes me is that anyone takes him seriously. Designer of the Year? A favorite of Anna Wintour? BROOKS BROTHERS?! There is not one human being who looks good in his clohes, including him, so how is it that this silliness continues? I have been predicting that he will fail utterly, because consumers will reject clothing that is so fundamentally unflattering.

Does anyone feel otherwise?
I do not think he will fail miserably. While I really can't pull off the look, definitely not thin and tall enough, i do think that his interpretation of the suit is a fresh change. I think that Socal on styleforum pulls off the essence of TB quite well.

TB's lines are not geared to boring bankers and stuffy lawyers. (I fit in to these groups.) If you nix that as a starting point, my question is "why not?" Many of my friends who are the creative types think his stuff is great. While they may not wear the pants so short, the look is the same IMO. I think it works on them b/c they have the personality to pull it off.

What would you have to say about this?
 
#22 ·
I do not think he will fail miserably. While I really can't pull off the look, definitely not thin and tall enough, i do think that his interpretation of the suit is a fresh change.
Are you totally mad? What part of this stupid, outgrown suit look do you think is a fresh change? I looked like this at 15, 55 years ago, wearing a suit that fit me when I was 13. If your aesthetics are so stunted, either you belong on this forum as a learning experience, or you are totally misplaced here.
 
#23 ·
So what were the other nine rules (please don't make me read the entire magazine)?
Here they are:
  1. Only button the middle button of the jacket
  2. No more than 1/8" pocket square showing
  3. Keep last button on cuff unbuttoned
  4. Button-down collar should remain unbuttoned
  5. Don't iron oxford shirts
  6. Wear trousers high waisted enough to show ankle
  7. Keep tie knots very tight
  8. Tuck bottom of tie into trousers
  9. Tie bar should fall halfway between collar and waistband
  10. No socks
What a laid back way to dress. So unstudied and carefree. :icon_smile_wink:
 
#24 ·
Heh, Alistair just beat me to it. He posted his list while I was typing the below.

So what were the other nine rules (please don't make me read the entire magazine)?
In addition to the no ironing and no socks rules:

Only the middle button of the jacket is to be buttoned
Pocket square should protrude no more than 1/8th inch
The last button on the coat cuff should be left unbuttoned (!)
The collar of the buttondown should stay unbuttoned
Trousers should be worn high-waisted, so that the cuff falls above the ankle
Tie knot should be kept very tight (They were pre-tied for the experiment subject)
Tie should be worn long, with tip tucked into the trousers
Tiebar should be worn halfway between shirt collar and trouser waistband
 
#25 ·
Mr. Brown is provocative and loves attention, it would seem any kind. I cannot imagine anyone seriously building up a good wardrobe adopting his clothing. He is a niche designer and his niche likes change, often. Good for him, not going to see any in my closet, even if I were a younger man.