[JLibourel]

The strange thing about the world of clothing is that it really seems to attract much higher than average levels of thoroughly obnoxious and vapid, superficial snobbery that just about any other hobby.

I am firmly of the belief that mocking and ridiculing someone for how they dress, let alone the lining of their garments is really the mark of a thoroughly unpleasant human being.

Sounds like you've got my number pretty well!

I'm not familiar with the book in question but perhaps it has some meaning to the man and frankly, who are we to judge his taste?

The book was sententious, sentimental dreck. Any man or woman with even a modicum of taste and sophistication would surely concur.

The fit of the jacket in question is not great but those casting withering scorn would do well to remember the words of Cary Grant on the topic.

Don't be a snob about the way you dress. Snobbery is only a point in time. Be tolerant and helpful to the other fellow-he is yourself yesterday.

Given some of things I wore in the '70s, Cary may have a point there.

 

[Flanderian]

The strange thing about the world of clothing is that it really seems to attract much higher than average levels of thoroughly obnoxious and vapid, superficial snobbery that just about any other hobby.

I am firmly of the belief that mocking and ridiculing someone for how they dress, let alone the lining of their garments is really the mark of a thoroughly unpleasant human being. I'm not familiar with the book in question but perhaps it has some meaning to the man and frankly, who are we to judge his taste?

The fit of the jacket in question is not great but those casting withering scorn would do well to remember the words of Cary Grant on the topic.

Don't be a snob about the way you dress. Snobbery is only a point in time. Be tolerant and helpful to the other fellow-he is yourself yesterday.

But it's what is discussed here.

I would agree that if this forum was dedicated to discussing banking or medicine in any serious manner, it would be highly inappropriate and caddish to observe that this poor man's bespoke jacket makes him look like a pear.

But in a forum that exists exclusively to discuss male attire, the discussion of its style, fit and effect are the substance and purpose of the forum. And offering opinions about what is good and what is poor is an essential part of that discussion.

As to the lining, I'm glad someone told me what it was! I stared at the darn thing forever and couldn't figure it out! I read the book when I was 22. It was insipid. I liked it. So was I.

 

[JBierly]

Not a specific comment about Bookster, although some on this forum seem to think Bookster is a bit "iffy" ( you can look at other posts for those comments.)
My concern is that I'll not be in London long enough to have a second fitting and would be receiving the garment via mail (back in the states) several weeks after the visit to England. Given that I'd likely be spending $1000 or more thats just a risk I can do without. I may look for a garment off the peg in London to purchase and maybe have it shipped back as I did in Edinburgh at Stewart Christie and Sons several years ago with a shooting jacket. Starting from scratch seems a bit of a long shot and I do not want to spend that much with no solid guarantee of success.

More like a 4th or 5th fitting to get things right.

 

[JBierly]

Seeing the photo from the fitting reminded me of the last time I tried on a "spalla camicia" suit jacket with no extension to the shoulders. It gave me the same pear shaped look as the jacket featured by the OP. Needless to say, I did not buy the garment. I can look fat on my own time and on my own dime - I don't need a tailor to assist me in these matters.

Even with a neapolitan jacket you can sometimes find jackets that have "con rollino" that will exaggerate the shoulder a bit. Nonetheless, some body types just look best with the shoulder built up a bit.

 

[JBierly]

But it's what is discussed here.

I would agree that if this forum was dedicated to discussing banking or medicine in any serious manner, it would be highly inappropriate and caddish to observe that this poor man's bespoke jacket makes him look like a pear.

But in a forum that exists exclusively to discuss male attire, the discussion of its style, fit and effect are the substance and purpose of the forum. And offering opinions about what is good and what is poor is an essential part of that discussion.

As to the lining, I'm glad someone told me what it was! I stared at the darn thing forever and couldn't figure it out! I read the book when I was 22. It was insipid. I liked it. So was I.

I think one can put whatever they want in their lining as silly as it may be. As for the fit, despite the trend towards truncal obesity in society at large in the world of tailored clothing I don't think we have quite succumbed to the concept that it is a good look and we should tailor our clothing to accentuate this flaw (flaw from a health perspective for sure - from an aesthetic point would be the issue at debate).

 

[Maljunulo]

The closer you get to either end of the curve, the more difficult it is to look good.