Just get some "celebrity" to wear the things and you're golden, and that's no recent trend. My Dad recalled the Veronica Lake one-eye-covered hairdo of the thirties or forties; said girls were banging into things due to lack of depth perception,


It does seem, though, that more absurdity abounds than in days of yore.

 

They call those "joggers" even though I doubt the kids that wear them could maintain a 15 mph speed. Unfortunately, they are available in wool and wool blend from the likes of even Lands End and RLPolo these days.


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If I am braving the mall during the holiday season, you better believe that I am going to be uber-casual. There is no sense being overly stuffy in that pit of inhumanity.

 

If I am braving the mall during the holiday season, you better believe that I am going to be uber-casual. There is no sense being overly stuffy in that pit of inhumanity.

Indeed, perhaps, however the above described trousers are exactly as described, with no exaggeration. I encountered them for the fist time while in Asia last month. Evidently they were quite the trend there a couple of years ago.

From her manner, I could imagine the woman wearing them thought them the epitome of style. All I could think was "loaded diaper."

 

^^...and

"Picture a pair of pants that looks like a loaded, sagging diaper on top,......]"

A word picture only a the parent of a very young one could compose for our mutual enlightenment! LOL.

 

It's like you people never heard of Rick Owens or Style Zeitgiest!:tongue2:

The drop crotch has been around for a while. I think the origins is the goth ninja look, because you really do look like a ninja wearing wacky wrapped clothing. As an added benefit, this style shortens the legs and accentuates the contrast in width between the lower leg and the seat/torso! Being old fogies, you all want to look tall and thin, but clothing is moving onward, finally! BTW, this style only works in any way if the wearer is very tall and thin.

 

Tempest, I am hopelessly behind the times, quite apparently! A week or so back I started a thread about these bead bracelets only to find out that they, too, had been around for some time! I'm going to have to frequent the malls more often, and stay up to date.

And Eagle, well...my children were very young once. Sadly they left the loaded diaper stage 20+ years ago...

What I'm seeing here is that I am getting unavoidably older!

 

They call those "joggers" even though I doubt the kids that wear them could maintain a 15 mph speed.

I run around 4 miles per morning, a few mornings per week.

If I could maintain a 15mph pace on those runs, my picture would be on a Wheaties box.

A 15mph pace is another way of saying a 4 minute mile. Which isn't quite as impressive a feat as it was 60 years ago, but it's still a noteworthy achievement over even a relatively short (1 mile) distance, and only one person (Daniel Komen) has ever managed to maintain such a pace for 2 miles (with a time of 7:58.61 - a world record that's stood since the mid-1990s). Nobody's even come close to maintaining such a pace over longer distances.

 

I run around 4 miles per morning, a few mornings per week.

If I could maintain a 15mph pace on those runs, my picture would be on a Wheaties box.

A 15mph pace is another way of saying a 4 minute mile. Which isn't quite as impressive a feat as it was 60 years ago, but it's still a noteworthy achievement over even a relatively short (1 mile) distance, and only one person (Daniel Komen) has ever managed to maintain such a pace for 2 miles (with a time of 7:58.61 - a world record that's stood since the mid-1990s). Nobody's even come close to maintaining such a pace over longer distances.

I was able to run a consistent 4:30 minute mile in college (if I only had to run one mile - believe me, for collegiate middle distance runners, this is not really impressive). Then, I would need a bit of rest to continue practice. Then, there is Dennis Kimetto, the current marathon record holder. He was able to maintain an average of 4:42 over the 26.2 mile course. That is freaking insane!!!!

 

I run around 4 miles per morning, a few mornings per week.

If I could maintain a 15mph pace on those runs, my picture would be on a Wheaties box.

A 15mph pace is another way of saying a 4 minute mile. Which isn't quite as impressive a feat as it was 60 years ago, but it's still a noteworthy achievement over even a relatively short (1 mile) distance, and only one person (Daniel Komen) has ever managed to maintain such a pace for 2 miles (with a time of 7:58.61 - a world record that's stood since the mid-1990s). Nobody's even come close to maintaining such a pace over longer distances.

As a runner, the quip about being unable to maintain a 15mph speed was what caught my attention in this thread, not the OP's description of the current state of affairs at the Mall of Murica.

I was able to run a consistent 4:30 minute mile in college (if I only had to run one mile - believe me, for collegiate middle distance runners, this is not really impressive). Then, I would need a bit of rest to continue practice. Then, there is Dennis Kimetto, the current marathon record holder. He was able to maintain an average of 4:42 over the 26.2 mile course. That is freaking insane!!!!

When I was on active duty in the Marines I was never able to hit the 18 minute 3 mile time for the perfect score in the PFT but usually just missed it by about a minute or so. These days, I focus more on the much longer distances and am out there more just to relax than I am to set any records, but anytime I can get a half marathon under an hour 45, I'm happy and I'm proud that I can still get my 5k finished under 21 minutes if I really push myself.

That said, I work with a guy who was a collegiate track athlete at a pretty big school (Tennessee - although I have no idea if that's a program that's known for Track & Field) and we were talking about running. He was telling me he could routinely run a mile in about 4:30 or 4:40 and I was really impressed. I then asked him how fast he could run a 5k in and he said it would take him closer to about 20 minutes or so, whereas I figured he should be able to do it in about 15 minutes. Before that, I had never thought about how folks who run the mile, that's really what they train for. He was a decathlete so the mile (or the 1500 meters) was about his max and there was no way he could maintain that pace much longer than that.

Of course, the guy I work with is built like an Olympian and I imagine if he were to really train for something longer, like the half marathon or a 10-miler, I'm sure he'd destroy me... so I've never invited him to go running with me. :winner:

 

They call those "joggers" ......
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They're actually Swedish and it's pronounced "Yoggers".

 

and only one person (Daniel Komen) has ever managed to maintain such a pace for 2 miles (with a time of 7:58.61 - a world record that's stood since the mid-1990s). Nobody's even come close to maintaining such a pace over longer distances.

FWIW I saw Bernard Lagat go under 4mins for the mile en route to winning a 2000m race at the Millrose Games. But two consecutive sub 4s - holy cow!

 

Apologies for my poor example, as my most regular exercise consists of running late. Which to be fair, I could probably accomplish while wearing "yoggers"


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Yeah, sorry for side-tracking the conversation with the running thing.

I couldn't help myself - I had to google "joggers."

The horror. The horror.

 

Tempest, I am hopelessly behind the times, quite apparently!

And Eagle, well...my children were very young once. Sadly they left the loaded diaper stage 20+ years ago...

Sadly??? I don't understand.

Gurdon

 

I prefer a pair of these.

 

Sadly??? I don't understand.

Gurdon

Where do I even begin, LOL?

 

I don't understand the appeal. Is this some kind of de-accentuation strategy for the lower torso?

Tempest cited the 'goth-ninja' movement earlier but I'd contrast that with an example of one of Bruce Lee's 'ninja' jumpsuits.

While most of the population can't pull this off why would someone want to make it look worse intentionally?

 

Those pants seem like modernized jodhpurs (the pants, not the boots). Weren't jodhpur pants stereotypical attire of Hollywood film directors in the old days?

 

Those pants seem like modernized jodhpurs (the pants, not the boots). Weren't jodhpur pants stereotypical attire of Hollywood film directors in the old days?

Except for the droopy crotch, since they were meant for riding.

Just for giggles I picked up a pair of herringbone wool trousers from one of the crowd funded retailers. It was a weak moment because my order for Bills donegal trousers never went through. Anyway, they were very slim in the legs below the knee, but the front around the crotch looked like you were expected to carry around a Joey or maybe a sack of potatoes. I wish I had snapped a couple pictures. They were quickly returned. I'm not sure where some of these design ideas come from, they are awful.

 

Is "jogger" some strange corruption of "jodhpur"? They resemble the trousers in Mughal miniatures...sort of.