Okay, since no one replied, I decided to compare my old PC shirts with the new one.

The fits the same, so no pictures. But... the side seams most certainly are not. The little triangle is still there, but the seams are very different. The new one used double needle stitching (I think), the USA one uses single needle stitching, and the seam is much thinner. Same for the arm seams.

No idea how this will affect the shirt's longevity since shirts are more or less disposable, but those are the major differences I found.

 

I'm interested in trying out propercloth for a shirt and I like to know how they are with sizing? Are they pretty spot on from what is entered in the system? How quick is the turn around time?

 

You are correct, that is single needle (white shirt) vs. double needle on the pink. You'll lose the whole seam if you pull the thread on the pink one.

ak622: all online MTM shirt makers have some variance based on what you enter, but the important thing to remember is that it is simply a baseline. It took four shirts for me to get my pattern perfect from where I order, but I just kept tweaking and it came out and is well worth it! Don't be discouraged if your first shirt isn't GREAT, it's not meant to be perfect. As a tip, order the sleeves on the long side, you can shorten them at the tailor if need be.

 

I like the fabric of your new shirt, enjoy!

 

I'm interested in trying out propercloth for a shirt and I like to know how they are with sizing? Are they pretty spot on from what is entered in the system? How quick is the turn around time?

If you mean body measurements, yes, they are very spot on. I only had to tweak the fit very slightly from my first order, but the first shirt was completely wearable. The turnaround time is listed on their website, I think its around 4 weeks. The real benefit with PC over other shirt makers is that they guarantee the fit, so if there's anything at all you don't like, you send it back and they redo the shirt.

My suggestion: Just go with whatever numbers the shirt size calculator gives you and then tweak it from there. Don't do what I did and try to mess with it without having a much greater understanding of the measurements and how they relate to your body. My shirt was only inches off, but it was too short in key areas and I had to send it back. Otherwise, I would have kept it and used it as a casual shirt.

I like the fabric of your new shirt, enjoy!

Me too!

 

I have two USA made PC shirts, and I like them very much. I won't be ordering any Malaysian made shirts. I will happily pay a premium for USA made.

 

The turnaround time is listed on their website, I think its around 4 weeks.

Thanks for sharing Leighton - just to clarify - turn around time is now 2-3 weeks. That means order today and have the shirt in your hands in 3 weeks or less. This is the exact schedule we're on.

 

I know this thread is a bit old but does anyone know if these would be labeled as made in usa? I'm trying to find somewhere that has shirts that fall under nafta rules for duty free. Some of the overseas end up costing just as much as local after 23% tax into canada.

Thanks.

 

I know this thread is a bit old but does anyone know if these would be labeled as made in usa? I'm trying to find somewhere that has shirts that fall under nafta rules for duty free. Some of the overseas end up costing just as much as local after 23% tax into canada.

Thanks.

No. Made in the USA has very stringent requirements unlike other countries. To comply with labeling laws, made in the US must be of all US manufacture, only an insignificant amount of the product can be imported. A qualified made in the US label is less stringent. As long as you qualify what is made in the US, you are ok.

Either case, the shirts are now made in Malaysia or Mongolia or somewhere in Asia so the point is moot.

Not sure what import laws you fall under but in the US there are no customs fees for things under a certain dollar amount. I think. Don't quote me on that.

That said, IIRC they're shipped from within the US. I think they get the shirts in and then ship them FedEx from NY. Which makes sense since they include the invoice on thick paper and a card and whatnot.

 

Mr. Leighton, I am unable to see the photos, is there any chance you could re-post them?

Thanks!

:icon_hailthee:

 

It appears I deleted them. Sorry.

 

Got this in the email today. For those interested. If in wrong place, please move.

 

Do you know the name of their manufacturing facility in Malaysia?