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Another time then. Though the muskrats may not be running. That's what the barbecue was about.

 

Welcome.
We're having a little barbecue at my place tonight. Hope you can make it. Pretty deep in the woods and I don't know which is worse, the mosquitoes or the wolves.

 

I'm in the northern north of New York State.

 

If I had not done so earlier let me do so now, welcome.

 

Thank You Sir. I meant to explain that as the rise line angles out as goes the belly, it must also get longer to meet the same height. Terrible explanation 😂😂 Thank You for the welcome. FS

 

May we all be so blessed as to procure trousers so well cut and fitted, and beautifully made. -

I realize there are valid differences of preference as to cut and fit, but both trousers and shirt are precisely as I would wish.

 

May we all be so blessed as to procure trousers so well cut and fitted, and beautifully made. -

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I realize there are valid differences of preference as to cut and fit, but both trousers and shirt are precisely as I would wish.

Maestro. Wow. Beautiful beautiful beautiful

 

Oh, and what about the Hollywood waistband, where it belts below the top of the trousers? Do you measure where the belt sits, or do you still measure to the top? Ultimately, these numbers don't matter, as long as the trousers fit properly.

 

Amen.

 

Like any formula - it only works for an average, much like the jacket length has to end in the bent hand.
The rise for a gentleman's trouser has absolutely nothing to do with either their height or weight.

The rise for dress slacks will be different than the rise for jeans or even casual pants.
Also - depending on the manufacturer - some measure from the top of the waistband and others from the bottom.

Also depending on your physique - you may need adjustments to the back or front rise.
I tell my clients to to make sure the rise fits rather than trying to adjust it too much - it is never the same as one that fits correctly in the beginning.

Generally - trimmer men need shorter rises, larger men need longer rises.
The problems begin in larger men when they wear pants below the stomach ( like me!!).
This necessitates a shorter front rise, and if they have no behind (a common age affliction), the back rise will also be shorter. The rise for someone with a larger behind (ahem) , needs to be longer to accommodate both the rear and the thighs - as they usually go hand in hand.

Most MTM companies use the difference between the inseam and outseam for the rise.
In my case I have them use a longer zipper as a short front rise will often come with a 5 or 5 1/2" zipper .


Best bet is for you to try on multiple pants - find the one that is really comfortable and then take the measures from that pant.

 

That number does it include the 1-1/4" waist band. So a 10" rise on the pattern will finish at 1-1/4" to 1-1/2" rise.

 

Ah Guest, pant rise should include two measurements. Front rise as well as rear rise which includes waist band in both fishtail trousers and split waistband (more common ). It doesn't stop at the zippers/buttoning point end since your waist doesn't stop......... below your waist.

 

The rise should be the length that you want. If I were having bespoke trousers made, I wouldn’t get out the calculator; I’d put my finger at a specific point on my midsection and say, “I want the top of the waistband to be HERE.” Then I’d let the tailor figure out how to get it there.

With ready-made trousers, I prefer a rise of about 11.25 to 11.5 inches. That’s why I avoid the modern-fit stuff.

 

The rise should be the length that you want. If I were having bespoke trousers made, I wouldn't get out the calculator; I'd put my finger at a specific point on my midsection and say, "I want the top of the waistband to be HERE." Then I'd let the tailor figure out how to get it there.

With ready-made trousers, I prefer a rise of about 11.25 to 11.5 inches. That's why I avoid the modern-fit stuff.

How tall are you and what's your inseam, if you don't mind me asking?

Also, only if you don't mind, what rise does the formula give you?

 

Personally I would call that a high rise.

The formula surprisingly works for me. It comes out to 11.4" for front rise. The pants I had made for me were 11.5" in the front rise.

I assume the rise increases because the bigger your waist, the bigger your belly, and the more length is needed in the front rise to sit on your natural waist.

 

That formula doesn't make any sense. Rise should consider both a person's height and the proportion of the leg to the torso. Waist size has nothing to do with it.

I'm the same waist size, and it works out right for me. But I can't see needing a longer rise if I were heavier.

 

+1! 👍