Wanted to express my appreciation for JC Penney Stafford (Executive/Traveler, Oxford/Pinpoint) dress shirts, as someone who dresses conservatively in classic American fashion with a masculine look.
First off, I'm not economically capable to buy from Ratio Clothing, which is obviously superior in every way -- American made, tailored, very affordable given its quality:
https://www.ratioclothing.com/products/light-blue-windowpane-pinpoint
https://www.ratioclothing.com/products/light-blue-classic-pinpoint
https://www.ratioclothing.com/products/white-campus-oxford
Or, a step down, Brooks Brothers ($60-$100 range).
Or even Lands End ($40-$60 range)
Or (and here's a blast from the past) old-style Nautica sanded poplin, 80's 2-ply, and vintage oxfords circa 2003-2008 before they decided to compete with Izods rather than Ralph Laurens). I splurged on a few in 2008, got them tailored, and they are still in terrific condition.
I'm not disputing that these are superior to Stafford. I just can't afford them in my current lot in life. I would even agree that if I had the money, it would be worth it to spend extra on these choices.
This leaves me with a smorgasbord of low-end options. After doing my homework (or so I think, correct me if I'm wrong), the Stafford line is the best available option for $30 and under.
Reasons why Stafford dress shirts are superior given their price point:
1: Great fit. Their athletic/slim fit actually is slim and doesn't make me look like a flying squirrel.
2: Wide selection of customizable fit and style options. I can find an athletic or slim cut, 16/32, button down or point collar shirt in many colors and patterns.
3: Affordable quality: compares favorably in Consumerreviews to Merona or Kirkland lines
4: Very affordable (I've gotten 60/40 OCBD's that will last for 5-10 years with care for $17)
Drawbacks:
1: I don't want no-iron, but this isn't an option. I can add skim milk and detox the shirts.
2: I like 80's 2-ply cotton, but it would be too much to ask at this price point.
Why it is superior to other brands in the same/similar price point
Charles Tyrwhitt - Their $30 and under selection cannot compare in terms of variety. Too many spread collars and patterns I don't need. I prefer pinpoints over broadcloth and twill. But this one is close.
Merona, Kirkland - Stafford shirts are superior quality as well as fit and customizability
Jos A Banks - I walked into a store and felt like I had a dollar sign on my back (which I don't). Bought a shirt for $19 online, was their tailored fit, and looked like a parachute. Also, it was broadcloth, I couldn't find pinpoints or oxfords in my price range.
Brands you find in Kohls (Apt 9, Haggar, Van Heusen, Croft & Barrow, etc) - Apt 9 only has spread collar broadcloths; Haggar shirts are too big and a bit over my price point; Van Heusen also mostly has spread broadcloths and fit issues; Croft & Barrow has fit and quality issues)
Paul Fredrick - their $19.95 introductory shirt ($26 when you factor in shipping) has raised enough bad publicity here, no need to repeat. Even if it is 80's 2-ply cotton
Brands you find on sale at Macy's (Eagle, Club Room, Michael Kors, Alfani) - the ones that fall into this price point are often sketchy, mostly broadcloth. Eagle slim fit isn't slim at all, but their quality is great. Also a bit higher than I can afford. Alfani gets slim, but looks too European for me.
Pierre Cardin - Just kidding. Just wanted to make sure you're paying attention.
The only comparable find has been (surprise surprise, yes I really dug deep into this) are the clearance Lord & Taylor Black and Brown 1826 shirts you find online for $19.99. I haven't found one of these that are fitted, pinpoint 80's 2-ply one in button down or point collar that is white, light blue, or light blue / black check on white, but will keep looking.
Your thoughts and comments are appreciated!
First off, I'm not economically capable to buy from Ratio Clothing, which is obviously superior in every way -- American made, tailored, very affordable given its quality:
https://www.ratioclothing.com/products/light-blue-windowpane-pinpoint
https://www.ratioclothing.com/products/light-blue-classic-pinpoint
https://www.ratioclothing.com/products/white-campus-oxford
Or, a step down, Brooks Brothers ($60-$100 range).
Or even Lands End ($40-$60 range)
Or (and here's a blast from the past) old-style Nautica sanded poplin, 80's 2-ply, and vintage oxfords circa 2003-2008 before they decided to compete with Izods rather than Ralph Laurens). I splurged on a few in 2008, got them tailored, and they are still in terrific condition.
I'm not disputing that these are superior to Stafford. I just can't afford them in my current lot in life. I would even agree that if I had the money, it would be worth it to spend extra on these choices.
This leaves me with a smorgasbord of low-end options. After doing my homework (or so I think, correct me if I'm wrong), the Stafford line is the best available option for $30 and under.
Reasons why Stafford dress shirts are superior given their price point:
1: Great fit. Their athletic/slim fit actually is slim and doesn't make me look like a flying squirrel.
2: Wide selection of customizable fit and style options. I can find an athletic or slim cut, 16/32, button down or point collar shirt in many colors and patterns.
3: Affordable quality: compares favorably in Consumerreviews to Merona or Kirkland lines
4: Very affordable (I've gotten 60/40 OCBD's that will last for 5-10 years with care for $17)
Drawbacks:
1: I don't want no-iron, but this isn't an option. I can add skim milk and detox the shirts.
2: I like 80's 2-ply cotton, but it would be too much to ask at this price point.
Why it is superior to other brands in the same/similar price point
Charles Tyrwhitt - Their $30 and under selection cannot compare in terms of variety. Too many spread collars and patterns I don't need. I prefer pinpoints over broadcloth and twill. But this one is close.
Merona, Kirkland - Stafford shirts are superior quality as well as fit and customizability
Jos A Banks - I walked into a store and felt like I had a dollar sign on my back (which I don't). Bought a shirt for $19 online, was their tailored fit, and looked like a parachute. Also, it was broadcloth, I couldn't find pinpoints or oxfords in my price range.
Brands you find in Kohls (Apt 9, Haggar, Van Heusen, Croft & Barrow, etc) - Apt 9 only has spread collar broadcloths; Haggar shirts are too big and a bit over my price point; Van Heusen also mostly has spread broadcloths and fit issues; Croft & Barrow has fit and quality issues)
Paul Fredrick - their $19.95 introductory shirt ($26 when you factor in shipping) has raised enough bad publicity here, no need to repeat. Even if it is 80's 2-ply cotton
Brands you find on sale at Macy's (Eagle, Club Room, Michael Kors, Alfani) - the ones that fall into this price point are often sketchy, mostly broadcloth. Eagle slim fit isn't slim at all, but their quality is great. Also a bit higher than I can afford. Alfani gets slim, but looks too European for me.
Pierre Cardin - Just kidding. Just wanted to make sure you're paying attention.
The only comparable find has been (surprise surprise, yes I really dug deep into this) are the clearance Lord & Taylor Black and Brown 1826 shirts you find online for $19.99. I haven't found one of these that are fitted, pinpoint 80's 2-ply one in button down or point collar that is white, light blue, or light blue / black check on white, but will keep looking.
Your thoughts and comments are appreciated!