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French Cuff + No Tie = OK for business casual?

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#1 ·
Hi, wondering if this would be breaking a rule. Anyone working in finance in particular would be helpful, but all responses are welcome.

Firm official dress code is business casual, although many wear ties almost daily. I have seen french cuffs in the office, but dont recall if a tie was also worn. Is it acceptable to wear a french cuff shirt, perhaps with silk knots, and without a tie in this environment?
 
#8 ·
I am sure Andy, manton, and others could point you to the precise rule regarding this, but in everyday life, I think much of this comes down to preference. I wear FC's, with tie, sans jacket whenever I feel like it in the desert heat and I am sure I am breaking some rule or another. However, I do not really care, surviving the summer heat is more important than following a rule made for much cooler climes IMO.

Where preference also enters in is with things such as white or contrast collars and cuffs. I find white/collar cuffs, sans jacket, very shmarmy. Add in braces and you have the boss from Office Space imitating Gordon Gecko. Again though, that is just my personal preference and really who gives a damn about that?

So I say, if you think the FC's sans tie looks good and no one at your office with the ability to affect your career cares about it, go for it.
 
#12 ·
I think French cuffs without a tie look awful. French cuffs are more formal than a barrel cuff. You can dress French cuffs down a bit with silk knots when you want to wear them with an odd jacket, but I do not think you can dress them down to the point at which they look good sans tie. Basically, when I think of French cuffs without a tie, what comes to mind is some kid with his shirt untucked, wearing jeans and Kenneth Cole shoes. More power to you if you like that sort of thing, but it's not my cup of tea.
 
#14 ·
French cuffs, regular cuffs....either way no big deal. whether it looks good without a tie depends more on the color, cut and style of the shirt in combination with the cufflinks as well as your overall look.

AZTEC
 
#20 ·
I strictly only wear French cuffs with a tie and a coat. I even avoid wearing them with just a sport coat.

However, in an age when men wear jeans to black tie, suits open necked with flip flops and t-shirts, I guess I might as well be telling you to wear a frock coat and topper to work.
Don't give up on us, Sator!
 
#22 ·
It's going to be annoying as all get out if you're spending a lot of time at a computer.

And IMO it doesn't look good.
 
#24 ·
Ok.

I was thinking w/o jacket and w/o a tie but given forum opinion to the contrary I will reconsider.

On the issue of FCs, has anyone ever worn them in "barrel style"? That's the best way I can think to describe the style I've seen (in a random picture that I can't locate at the moment), where basically instead of a flat cuff the french cuff is rolled over itself just like barrel cuffs are, and the link closes the cuff just like buttons do. Is this an acceptable way to wear FCs?
 
#26 ·
What I fail to see is the problem of being over dressed for a situation, in any article of clothing. Sometimes going to the next level of formality looks silly, such as wearing patent leather oxfords with a suit, but I don't think the FC with no coat/no tie look is silly.
That's the problem. French cuffs are normally considered to be more formal, which is precisely why many members on this forum (myself included) instinctively cringe at the sight of french cuffs without a tie (certainly a casual look). I'm also one of those who doesn't even like the look of french cuffs with a sports coat. French cuffs definitely call for a suit in my opinion-- unless they're rolled up and you can't tell that they're french cuffs. Since rolled up sleeves are inherently casual, the lack of a tie or a suit is no problem in that situation.