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Best mid-range RTW Saville Row Suit Tailors?

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#1 ·
I currently wear a lot of mid-level RTW ($1,500-$3,000) italian suits such as Zegna, Canali and Caruso. I'd like to explore some more conservative english offerings. What are some of the better english suit makers in this price category?
 
#2 · (Edited)
I think your idea of the Savile Row tailor and their work-product is bit off base, because you won't find any of the prestigious tailors in Savile Row who will cut a suit for what you are used to paying for RTW. You will have to either revise your budget by at least $1000 more, or go off the row to find a <$3000 bespoke suit. However, you can continue buying the $3000 RTW that some of the traditional tailoring houses in the Row are now offering as well. If you revise your budget, then you can go with any of the tailors in this previous thread, but I think you first have to decide which style you like the best, and then, and only then, pick the tailor that cuts that specific style that you like. Keep in mind, however, $4000 will just get you the entry level suit, no fancy cloth, or too many special requests. It will still be a very well fitted suit, better than anything else you have ever bought off the rack. Bespoke tailoring gets better with time, and the better your tailor gets to know you, and the more suits he makes for you the better they will turn out for you. Savile Row does not mean perfection, but it will be the closest you'll ever get to it.
 
#3 ·
Some of the Savile Row firms such as G&H do offer RTW clothes. Prince Charles these days reputedly wears G&H ready mades. It's been a while since I looked at their stuff up close, but some of the ready mades being offered by SR firms look like its manufacture is totally divorced from their bespoke tailoring. It looks like the average industry business of "designer-manufacturer" produced stuff.

Often the Italians own better manufacturing facilities. You will find that a lot of what wears a SR firm's badge is not manufactured in the UK. Gone are the days when the UK manufactured genuine high end ready made clothing. I've even seen Chinese mass produced fused G&H stuff that looks totally anonymous and more a case of them prostituting out their badge for profit.
 
#4 ·
As noted above, your budget is a little low for full bespoke from a famous house.

But there are many other options. On his blog Permanent Style, Simon Crompton has has written in great detail about happy experiences with Graham Browne:

https://permanentstyle.blogspot.com/search?q=graham+browne

There are also people in London working with Cheshire Bespoke, which is an MTM operation succeeding the late Chester Barrie, which made RTW for many SR houses as well as the first version of Ralph Lauren Purple Label:

https://permanentstyle.blogspot.com/search?q=cheshire
 
#8 ·
I suggest that you take a look at WW Chan on one of their tours through the USA, or make the trip to Hong Kong....I had 6 fittings in 5 days.
It is a simple process to order after that.
I have suits from Richard Anderson and Anderson & Sheppard.
I now have WW Chan making mine.
Did you order 2-3 suits at one time? I can't imagine needing 6 fittings for one suit.
 
#11 ·
I don't know why you guys keep taking about bespoke. You guys need to go to SR yourself. It is full of RTW clothes these days. Many traditional firms offer RTW lines.
I'll tell you why...For my part, that's what I know. Given my size and physical characteristics, custom-made or bespoke suits and shirts are my best option at getting a suit and shirt that fit, and fit well. Also, I don't see the value in MTM with all the adjustments and alterations I need and want, and at the prices that some of these companies sell their suits for, it is not worth it to me. Spending the extra money for a fully customized garment, and the experience that goes with it, makes it worthwhile for me.:icon_peaceplease:

While you are right that several SR shops are now offering MTM or RTW clothes, some of them still don't, and to my knowledge, all of the tailors in SR still offer bespoke services. Specially the ones mentioned by Timeless Fashion, and I want to know what a Chinese tailor is offering that he couldn't get in SR. I went in the opposite direction. I used to get my suits tailored in HK, but no more, and I now prefer SR. Perhaps WW Chan is doing something that will make it worhtwhile to go back to China to get my suits made over there.
 
#14 · (Edited)
Why would you leave Richard Anderson, and Anderson & Shepard? They have opposite house-styles, but what does WW Chand offer that the these two don't have?
The short answer...more competitive price and I found the quality of work, not much different.
Same cloths were available as the Savile Row houses.

As to moving between Anderson & Shepard and Richard Anderson...Yes, their styles are different. I wanted to try them both.
I preferred Anderson & Shepard, until I found WW Chan.