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#22 ·
Ok so here's my review - and yes with pics! I ordered the plain Navy Suit, cost was $309 USD including a free shirt, shipping and customs charges.

ABOUT ME
I've owned Zegna mainline, Canali (including Exclusive), Corneliani all the way down to Boss and M. Valentino from the Wizard of Aahs. I consider myself a pragmatist - I'm not expecting Zegna quality at $300. If it helps I'm 5'9" and about 155 lbs. My standard suit is a 38R.

SPEED AND SERVICE
Outstanding. Ordered on 02/12 acknowledged immediately. Apparently cut and sent to the tailor on 02/18. Shipped on 02/25 and delivered on 02/26. A total of 14 days from order to delivery - not bad! It's going to have to be remade (see below) and they volunteered to do so within a few hours of me sending in alterations estimate. They don't expect me to send back the original suit until I receive the new one.

FIRST IMPRESSIONS
Pretty good. Material is a reasonable weave, nice hand. It's not the super delicate feel, I think it should hold up well. Stitching seems straight. Not a lot of the 'little extras' such as change pocket on the pants, pen pocket in the jacket, functional lapel buttonhole etc. Pick stitching a little over the top.

THE FIT
This is one slim fitting suit! Unfortunately a little too much so, will take some alterations. In particular they didn't accommodate my funky square shoulders (and I did emphasize when ordering, including a photo). The alterations are going to be more than $75 so they are going to remake the suit. I thought you might find it useful to see the measurements I entered and what I measure the corresponding suit at;

Bicep: Submitted 12.5", I measure 14" (7x2)
Wrist: Submitted 7.5", I measure 11" (5.5x2)
Chest: Submitted 38", I measure 39" (pit seam across, 19.5x2)
Shoulder: Submitted 18", I measure 18"
Stomach: Submitted 33", I measure 33"
Hips: Submitted 37", I measure 38"
Length: Submitted 30", I measure 29" (however they measure the front length, when I say 29 I measuring the back - overall the length is ok)
Pant waist: Submitted 33", I measure 33" (16.5x2)

So as you can see maybe not the typical margin you might expect. Shoulder is ok, the rest of the body of the jacket, as well as the waist/hips on the pants, is just too tight. On the remake I'm thinking of Chest +1, Stomach +1, Hips +0.75, Pant waist +0.75, Pant hips +1. I'd welcome feedback on that based on the photos.

ADDITIONAL
I ordered the sleeves unhemmed, expecting to be standard unfinished. Not the case at all, they were really unhemmed, with a questionable amount of fabric to turn up. I would not recommend this option! The jacket does feel canvassed as their site claims.

The shirt that arrived is ok at best. It was free, I wouldn't pay the $90 that the site normally charges as they have minimal customization options.

I also ordered some fabric swatches (free when you order a suit) and am impressed.

THE PICTURES
So here they are. Taking photos of a REALLY dark navy suit is hard! Keep in mind the pants and sleeve arms are unhemmed, so the length of both can't really be judged.

Front Full, Buttoned
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Front Full, Unbuttoned
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Side shot, buttoned
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Back shot, buttoned
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Back shot, unbuttoned
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Shoulders
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The pants, front
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The pants, back
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CONCLUSION
Obviously I'm going to have to wait for the remade suit to say for sure! If they're able to adjust the measurements so the fit is better I'd consider ordering from them again.
 
#23 ·
Very interesting. The end result (as measured from what you inputted vs. what came out) seems very Jantzen-like -- i.e., not incredibly forgiving of mismeasurements or errors on the user input side. Duly noted!

Are you sure the jacket is canvassed? Fully cavassed? For a $300 suit, that seems like quite the claim.
 
#24 ·
GreenPlastic said:
Very interesting. The end result (as measured from what you inputted vs. what came out) seems very Jantzen-like -- i.e., not incredibly forgiving of mismeasurements or errors on the user input side. Duly noted!

Are you sure the jacket is canvassed? Fully cavassed? For a $300 suit, that seems like quite the claim.
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Yup, but I suspect if I can nail the measurements it'll look nice! In terms of canvassing: not sure if I can tell the difference between full and half. I did the 'pinch test' on the chest by the top button hole. I can definitely feel three distinct and separate layers - the fabric, something that feels canvas like and then the inside lining. If you know how I can differentiate between full and half (without cutting it open!) let me know.
 
#25 ·
Gosh that is quite an untidy suit.

Regarding resubmitting your measurements - I think the chest you should not increase but they need to rejig the pattern grading of your suit. Its the back that is a mess.

Back of the suit

------ Chest They need to reduce the back 2 panels

------ Stomach increase the grading on the back

------- Waist Seems about ok

Jacket length for my taste needs to be increased 30.5" is abt average for an OTR for your chest.

I am guessing that you have quite round shoulders although obviously i cant really be sure with only seeing them under your jacket but they need to recut the shoulders accordingly to sort out some of the back and sleeve issue.

Hope thats of some help a very quick response before i dash out
 
#26 ·
sleats said:
Gosh that is quite an untidy suit.

Regarding resubmitting your measurements - I think the chest you should not increase but they need to rejig the pattern grading of your suit. Its the back that is a mess.

Back of the suit

------ Chest They need to reduce the back 2 panels

------ Stomach increase the grading on the back

------- Waist Seems about ok

Jacket length for my taste needs to be increased 30.5" is abt average for an OTR for your chest.

I am guessing that you have quite round shoulders although obviously i cant really be sure with only seeing them under your jacket but they need to recut the shoulders accordingly to sort out some of the back and sleeve issue.

Hope thats of some help a very quick response before i dash out
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Thanks for the suggestions. Part of the challenge is also that I have a low right shoulder, which you can see the results of in the back photos on that side. In OTR suits I ALWAYS have that collar roll so they have to square the shoulders.
 
#27 · (Edited)
A dropped shoulder shouldnt really pose any problems and shouldnt be an excuse for a suit that sits wrong. For the remake send a photo of your shoulders if you didnt on the first

There is huge rucking on the front and the back of the shoulders and which you shouldnt have. I think its partly caused by the internal construction as it just isnt sitting right

I guess if they are issues you are not too bothered with concentrate on the ones you are but to me they are the most irksome
 
#28 ·
sleats said:
A dropped shoulder shouldnt really pose any problems and shouldnt be an excuse for a suit that suits wrong. For the remake send a photo of your shoulders if you didnt on the first

There is huge rucking on the front and the back of the shoulders and which you shouldnt have. I think its partly caused by the internal construction as it just isnt sitting right

I guess if they are issues you are not too bothered with concentrate on the ones you are but to me they are the most irksome
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Thanks for the feedback. I have sent many, many of the pictures I posted here and even pointed out the rucking as you referred to.
 
#29 ·
Not bad. I too was impressed by the fabric swatches, and the navy blue suit fabric really felt like it had significant quality, as did the charcoal. The shirts are the real disappointments. It's a pretty good make, but the fabric is **** compared to the suit fabrics. Why not upgrade to egyptian or sea island cotton and hike the price a bit?
 
#30 ·
avocade said:
Not bad. I too was impressed by the fabric swatches, and the navy blue suit fabric really felt like it had significant quality, as did the charcoal. The shirts are the real disappointments. It's a pretty good make, but the fabric is **** compared to the suit fabrics. Why not upgrade to egyptian or sea island cotton and hike the price a bit?
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You can definitely do better on the shirt front it appears. I think they're going after a certain market, at a certain price point, and upgrading the fabrics would mean a fairly big hike. They've got such a limited selection, with minimal choices that I probably wouldn't look to them for shirts alone. Jantzen, MyTailor, TailorStore etc all have a MUCH larger selection for about the same price.
 
#31 ·
I got the "cayman commerce" striped blue shirt some time ago, but haven't had time to try it yet. I did feel the fabric at least today, and was actually _very_ impressed by it. It easily trumps the very rough Oxford-type cloth of the utility shirt (which is double ply). The thread count on this new shirt must be upwards of a 100. I actually thought it felt too good to be true, and started wondering if they didn't sneak some polyester in there.

OT. Re: polyester, their fashion shirt selections are abominable, almost all polyester, which I mostly _hate_. And it seems all their new suits launched recently are all made with polyester... Sad state, very sad.
 
#32 ·
So I got my white "ultimate utility" shirt a few weeks ago, around 10 days after ordering (kudos!), along with some fabric swatches (of which two were wrong and one was missing). Re: the fabrics, my tailor thought the suit wool cloths were of a pretty high quality (charcoal, black tie jacket, etc), but that the Camel coat fabric was "suspect"...

The shirt was made in a quite heavy fabric (double ply and threadcount 60 according to indochino) and felt a bit better than a standard H&M OTR shirt (which isn't a great thing IMHO). The shirt sleeves were of almost perfect length, and the french cuffs were nicely done, albeit a bit too big. Buttons were somewhat better than plastic, and pretty thick, but the buttonholes weren't hand-sewn from my quick investigation, which is otherwise a signature of high quality work.

The measurements for the chest, stomach and neck were very off mark, and made it look and feel extremely "baggy" and unattractive. I took it to my tailor who made some changes to it and it now fits quite nicely. I was fully credited (around $60 in changes) by indochino after uploading the receipt.

I'm extremely impressed by their customer service and policies, which gives me great hopes that the suit I'll order after my second shirt arrives (ordered a striped "cayman commerce" with the tweaked measurements yesterday) will fit nicely. Eventually.

Edit: The new shirt "cayman commerce" (blue stripes) arrived, and when tried on was almost perfect in measurement. I'm quite impressed, and have since ordered the navy blue suit. The thread count on this shirt was a lowly 50, while it felt like more than 60+.
 
#33 ·
So here's my follow-up: I received the remade suit this week. Unfortunately the fit was still not correct - they added too much across the hips in the jacket which threw the overall balance out. The remade pants were dead-on though.

After contacting them I decided that I'd send both suits back to them for a refund. I think I just have to admit that my shoulder/back shape is not one that lends itself to an online MTM suit. If I had the body shape where a regular RTW wear suit fit me off the rack in the shoulders and I just had issues with drop etc I'd probably have been quite happy with the results. As it is I always have to have RTW suits altered in this area.

They were VERY accommodating, I have to say that their customer service is top-notch. Unbelievable turn-around time, and really strong customer service. Plus very little risk with their guarantee I'd probably have to say they'd be worth a shot by many.
 
#35 ·
Sorry, I haven't been on the forum since mid-February because of work. I have been swamped. I just posted the review.
 
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#36 ·
hockeyinsider said:
I just checked them out. They appear to be a couple young lads from Vancouver, who went into business for themselves. The website is top-notch and is a lot better than more established brands.

The suits look decent for the price ... I'm tempted to order something, though I'd prefer finding out if anyone has experience with them.

I just e-mailed them about getting a sample suit for reviewing on the forum.
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#37 ·
I have four of their suits and they are the best things hanging in my closet! I wear them to church, I wear them to events and get many compliments from those who have seen me in them. They look fantastic with tuxedo shirts and bow ties, they don’t catch my French Cuffs like many of my other suits have done and the opportunity to have them customized truly makes them look like they were created for me alone. The best part is being able to have both pants and jacket fitted so that they can be worn with side tabs and suspenders and in my case, no annoying belt loops. The jacket can have either a conservative or wild lining, personalization through monogramming and you can even have a choice of DB or SB jackets and lapel types even with custom tuxedos (my suits are all customized as tuxedos btw). So, essentially all a customer has to do is decide what color and fabric they want, whether they want a vest, an extra pair of pants and any types of customization they might think of. The measurement process seems a little bit intimidating at first, because the sales person (style guide) measures you all over and in many places that you might not think of. In short, you get a custom suit without realizing it at first. The first time out, the process might not bring a well fitting suit but depending on what needs to be done to the suit, it might be a few days before everything comes together but in the end, you will have a great fitting suit you’ll be proud to wear.
 
#38 ·
WillTheTuxman said:
I have four of their suits and they are the best things hanging in my closet! I wear them to church, I wear them to events and get many compliments from those who have seen me in them. They look fantastic with tuxedo shirts and bow ties, they don’t catch my French Cuffs like many of my other suits have done and the opportunity to have them customized truly makes them look like they were created for me alone. The best part is being able to have both pants and jacket fitted so that they can be worn with side tabs and suspenders and in my case, no annoying belt loops. The jacket can have either a conservative or wild lining, personalization through monogramming and you can even have a choice of DB or SB jackets and lapel types even with custom tuxedos (my suits are all customized as tuxedos btw). So, essentially all a customer has to do is decide what color and fabric they want, whether they want a vest, an extra pair of pants and any types of customization they might think of. The measurement process seems a little bit intimidating at first, because the sales person (style guide) measures you all over and in many places that you might not think of. In short, you get a custom suit without realizing it at first. The first time out, the process might not bring a well fitting suit but depending on what needs to be done to the suit, it might be a few days before everything comes together but in the end, you will have a great fitting suit you’ll be proud to wear.
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Why do you continue to post responses to people on threads that are a decade or more old? I know someone else asked you this question, but you ignored them. Why not simply begin a new thread in order to share your opinions?
 
#39 ·
WillTheTuxman said:
I have four of their suits and they are the best things hanging in my closet! I wear them to church, I wear them to events and get many compliments from those who have seen me in them. They look fantastic with tuxedo shirts and bow ties, they don’t catch my French Cuffs like many of my other suits have done and the opportunity to have them customized truly makes them look like they were created for me alone. The best part is being able to have both pants and jacket fitted so that they can be worn with side tabs and suspenders and in my case, no annoying belt loops. The jacket can have either a conservative or wild lining, personalization through monogramming and you can even have a choice of DB or SB jackets and lapel types even with custom tuxedos (my suits are all customized as tuxedos btw). So, essentially all a customer has to do is decide what color and fabric they want, whether they want a vest, an extra pair of pants and any types of customization they might think of. The measurement process seems a little bit intimidating at first, because the sales person (style guide) measures you all over and in many places that you might not think of. In short, you get a custom suit without realizing it at first. The first time out, the process might not bring a well fitting suit but depending on what needs to be done to the suit, it might be a few days before everything comes together but in the end, you will have a great fitting suit you’ll be proud to wear.
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Stop with the posting to necrothreads.
 
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