I've seen forumites post pictures of their shoes, which always seem to have pristine toebox (? the part of the shoe that covers the top of the toe) without any creases. In my everyday life I find myself bending my feet and so forth so that inevitably creases result. In your opinion are the creases unattractive? Those who answer yes, do you go about the day with the inconvenience of not flexing your toes?
Are creases on the toebox "bad"?
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I've seen forumites post pictures of their shoes, which always seem to have pristine toebox (? the part of the shoe that covers the top of the toe) without any creases. In my everyday life I find myself bending my feet and so forth so that inevitably creases result. In your opinion are the creases unattractive? Those who answer yes, do you go about the day with the inconvenience of not flexing your toes?
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Gee, guys ... this may be some sort of inherent defect in the product line. What I make creases all the time. We just wash & iron and !Presto! - No creases.
Of course, as jcusey says, what I create is made from weed fuzz. Sigh...
Oh well, at least it's not cow butt. :devil:
Of course, as jcusey says, what I create is made from weed fuzz. Sigh...
Oh well, at least it's not cow butt. :devil:
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...or whose construction is not in alignment with one's foot mechanics. A shoe can be well made and it can fit in the traditional sense...but the point at which individuals flex their toes and bend their feet differ. If someone's physiology results in this occuring within the toe box, creasing can well result or the shoes may create some discomfort. I would say that such a shoe does not really fit properly (underscoring manton's initial assessment) but others may use the term "fit" in a narrower sense. The solution for such wearers is to look for shoes in which the toe cap does not extend terribly far back. In my iown case, the length of the toe cap has been a cognizant design factor in all the shoes I have had made over the past three decades.
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He he he....Majored in Animal Husbandry, did you?
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trads prefer horse butt.
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a well made shoe
with quality leather
and a correct fit on the foot
with decent care and maintenance
will give you creases that are characteristic and beautiful.
some shoes right out of the box look a little awkward with a clean straight vamp, i usually put them on and flex them for a bit to create a few creases as that adds to the lines and beauty of the shoes.
with quality leather
and a correct fit on the foot
with decent care and maintenance
will give you creases that are characteristic and beautiful.
some shoes right out of the box look a little awkward with a clean straight vamp, i usually put them on and flex them for a bit to create a few creases as that adds to the lines and beauty of the shoes.
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I`ve got to be honest ,I feel creasing of the vamp adds charachter to a shoe,
I`m not refering to split, scuffed, ill maintained shoes, but a well polished and maintained shoe with some creasing where the foot inevitably bends and flexes, and the polishing darkens in the creases and adds to the pattina.
I`m not refering to split, scuffed, ill maintained shoes, but a well polished and maintained shoe with some creasing where the foot inevitably bends and flexes, and the polishing darkens in the creases and adds to the pattina.
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I couldn't have expressed my thoughts any better than Tom has done in his post. I can't imagine any shoe than has recieved significant wear not developing a few creases to project a bit of added character. Proper care may eliminate scuffs and prevent cracking of the leather but, if they get worn, I suspect any shoe will develope creases.
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...wearing not being!
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to my knowledge, (let say in a captoe), toebox refers to everything from tip of shoe to the captope line,
the vamp refers to the shaft from the captoe line to the end of the tongue (in a derby) or bottom part of where the quarters meet (in a bal)
the creasing for a shoe in a properly fitted shoe should occur approxmiately starting from the captoe line through to maybe around an inch before reaching the quarters.
the vamp refers to the shaft from the captoe line to the end of the tongue (in a derby) or bottom part of where the quarters meet (in a bal)
the creasing for a shoe in a properly fitted shoe should occur approxmiately starting from the captoe line through to maybe around an inch before reaching the quarters.
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In my experience you want a fairly firm or hard toe box. That will force the flex point of the shoe back onto the vamp. Despite the necessity of proper fit, some style are simply longer through the toe box, a factor that sizing down does not address. I have only really had a problem with the toe box creasing with one pair of shoes, a pair of Martegani. The toe box is rather soft (you can push into it with your finger without pushing that hard) compared to most of my other shoes that have a very hard tox box. The creasing in the toe area bugs me...but I am trying to get over it as I like the shoes.
You can see the creasing in the Martegani (second from left.) The shoe is correct sized given where it rest across the ball of my foot; I certainly couldn't go smaller. The Radica calf is a very soft and lighter weight calf. All in all, I have decided to not buy a Martegani unless I can inspect the shoes in person to verify the firmness of the toe box.By comparison, the Borgioli (third from left) has been the most amazing shoe in that it has developed almost no creases anywhere!
You can see the creasing in the Martegani (second from left.) The shoe is correct sized given where it rest across the ball of my foot; I certainly couldn't go smaller. The Radica calf is a very soft and lighter weight calf. All in all, I have decided to not buy a Martegani unless I can inspect the shoes in person to verify the firmness of the toe box.By comparison, the Borgioli (third from left) has been the most amazing shoe in that it has developed almost no creases anywhere!
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