[Roamfree]

Hi all, I'd like to buy a Barbour jacket, bjr would like to satisfy myself of the origin of Sykloil that they use on the wax jackets. Is it from bees wax or is it some kind of paraffin based wax? Thank you so much!

 

[fishertw]

Cant speak to the mix that is used but having had both in the past, the original seems to dry out and wear off a bit quicker.

 

[Roamfree]

Cant speak to the mix that is used but having had both in the past, the original seems to dry out and wear off a bit quicker.

Thanks , much appreciated. I'm just really concerned about whether it's bee's wax or paraffin or some such. If the former, whether any bees are harmed. I know it might seem stupid, but I have the guilts!

 

[Vecchio Vespa]

Thanks Andy, much appreciated. I'm just really concerned about whether it's bee's wax or paraffin or some such. If the former, whether any bees are harmed. I know it might seem stupid, but I have the guilts!

Personally I am thrilled you thought it through, are running the traps, and care about bees. They are lovely and essential. Barbour labels its products as proprietary formula or such. I would think that emailing them, "I am concerned about the possibility of using beeswax in the dressings for your jackets. I am not asking that you divulge any aspect of your formula, but I would like to know if any bees are harmed in the process." will promptly draw a response. If it does, lease share! Welcome to Ask Andy!
Tim

 

[Roamfree]

Personally I am thrilled you thought it through, are running the traps, and care about bees. They are lovely and essential. Barbour labels its products as proprietary formula or such. I would think that emailing them, "I am concerned about the possibility of using beeswax in the dressings for your jackets. I am not asking that you divulge any aspect of your formula, but I would like to know if any bees are harmed in the process." will promptly draw a response. If it does, lease share! Welcome to Ask Andy!
Tim

Thanks Tim, I'll do it!! And I'll let you all know 🐝❤

 

[Flanderian]

While far less punctilious concerning bee welfare than the OP, I think it may be helpful to point out that bee's wax is an invertible byproduct of honey production -

A Beekeeper Wants to Set the Record Straight About Honey and Bees

Honey is controversial because vegans don't eat it, since it is from the labor of bees and they don't want bees harmed in any way. A beekeeper tells his story.

thebeet.com

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And disregarding entirely that it might be more realistic to view the hive as a collective organism, rather than individuals, even commercial harvesting will result in far less harm than a hungry black bear.

 

[Roamfree]

While far less punctilious concerning bee welfare than the OP, I think it may be helpful to point out that bee's wax is an invertible byproduct of honey production -

A Beekeeper Wants to Set the Record Straight About Honey and Bees

Honey is controversial because vegans don't eat it, since it is from the labor of bees and they don't want bees harmed in any way. A beekeeper tells his story.

thebeet.com

.
And disregarding entirely that it might be more realistic to view the hive as a collective organism, rather than individuals, even commercial harvesting will result in far less harm than a hungry black bear.

This is a super interesting article, thank you so much for sharing it! I think Barbour jackets are all produced in the UK, I'd be very surprised of the bees from which they obtain the wax, are not also cared for in the UK. That's given me a lot of reassurance on this rather esoteric topic, thank you!

 

[Flanderian]

This is a super interesting article, thank you so much for sharing it! I think Barbour jackets are all produced in the UK, I'd be very surprised of the bees from which they obtain the wax, are not also cared for in the UK. That's given me a lot of reassurance on this rather esoteric topic, thank you!

Very welcome!

 

[Vecchio Vespa]

That was a fun read indeed. I have lots of solitary bees in my yard. Since they aren't defending hives, they, too, are very docile. I showed the next door kids that you can even pet them (gently, of course)!

 

[Oldsarge]

I have beekeepers about a block away from me. If my blood sugar permitted it, I'd be down there regularly. As it is, they keep my yard well pollenated.

 

[Flanderian]

My daughter and son-in-law's new mini-farm came equipped with a bear-proof hive. They noticed all (apparently) of the bees swarming to the branch of a nearby tree. They went on-line and found a commercial bee keeper who offers free advice. He explained it was likely the result of another queen having been produced, and a second swarm splitting and forming from the hive. He asked if they'd like to be rid of it, which they gratefully accepted. He came out and collected the second swarm to install in one of his hives. And he provided in-depth instruction as to what is required to keep bees. He said a hive usually produces about 80 pounds of honey a year, and it's harvested in spring. They got their bee suits, and hope to enjoy the bounty next spring.

 

[Roamfree]

Hi everyone,

Barbour's lovely reply...

Good afternoon Katie

Thank you for your email.

We can confirm that most our wax jackets are animal friendly and the wax itself is vegan friendly, as it is a paraffin based wax, with natural ingredients and no animal products.

I have double-checked with my supervisor for you and there is no longer bees wax used in our waxed products such as the waxed-jackets and the wax its self.

I hope this is of help.

Kind regards.

 

[Roamfree]

Thanks Tim, I'll do it!! And I'll let you all know 🐝❤

Hi again Tim,

Barbour's lovely reply to my enquiry ...

Good afternoon,

Thank you for your email.

We can confirm that most our wax jackets are animal friendly and the wax itself is vegan friendly, as it is a paraffin based wax, with natural ingredients and no animal products.

I have double-checked with my supervisor for you and there is no longer bees wax used in our waxed products such as the waxed-jackets and the wax its self.

I hope this is of help.

Kind regards

 

[Oldsarge]

My daughter and son-in-law's new mini-farm came equipped with a bear-proof hive. They noticed all (apparently) of the bees swarming to the branch of a nearby tree. They went on-line and found a commercial bee keeper who offers free advice. He explained it was likely the result of another queen having been produced, and a second swarm splitting and forming from the hive. He asked if they'd like to be rid of it, which they gratefully accepted. He came out and collected the second swarm to install in one of his hives. And he provided in-depth instruction as to what is required to keep bees. He said a hive usually produces about 80 pounds of honey a year, and it's harvested in spring. They got their bee suits, and hope to enjoy the bounty next spring.

That's a whole BUNCH of honey. I'm glad I never got started down that road. I don't know what I would do with it all.

 

[Flanderian]

That's a whole BUNCH of honey. I'm glad I never got started down that road. I don't know what I would do with it all.

Stick a label on it with the term artisanal and sell it for 5 bucks for an 8oz jar!

You could expand your line from just hot-sauce.