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I have a pair of beautiful Barker monks that I have tried several times to get a mirror shine on the toe cap and to no avail. I understand this is a skill that takes practice. I am using Saphir Pate de Luxe and for some reason the product just seems to seep into the leather and turn the toe cap into soggy cardboard texture. When I try to polish it, its almost slightly course to rub and feels like im rubbing to cloths together. Gosh I hope that makes sense.

The kicker is, I use the exact polish on my Loake oxfords and they shine up beautifully with minimal effort.

What am I doing wrong?
 

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I have a pair of beautiful Barker monks that I have tried several times to get a mirror shine on the toe cap and to no avail. I understand this is a skill that takes practice. I am using Saphir Pate de Luxe and for some reason the product just seems to seep into the leather and turn the toe cap into soggy cardboard texture. When I try to polish it, its almost slightly course to rub and feels like im rubbing to cloths together. Gosh I hope that makes sense.

The kicker is, I use the exact polish on my Loake oxfords and they shine up beautifully with minimal effort.

What am I doing wrong?
You have to use water and really thin layers of polish. Add a little bit of polish, then a little bit of water to the polishing rag, apply the polish to the shoe with a light tough in a circular motion, and repeat until you get the desired shine.
 

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I wonder whether that pair may simply be possessed by an evil spirit that prevents a shine - call it a Matt Demon. I had a pair of black shoes from Oliver Sweeney from the early 90s that would not take a shine regardless of what I did to them. I gave up after a while.
 

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I did in fact learn too shine my boondockers in the Navy.
From my days in Air Force basic I seem to recall 4 methods being explored -

1. The Civilian Method - Apply Kiwi to boot with fingers and use any available rag to buff it up.

2. The Traditional Military Spit Shine - Take Kiwi tin, one each type. Open. Fill cap with water. Dip rag in water and, then Kiwi, rub into boot toe. Repeat until you can tell if you need a shave.

3. The Advanced Military Spit Shine - No spit, no s**t! Open Kiwi. Get out your Zippo. Melt kiwi, and drip onto toe of boot. (Note: If you set fire to your can of Kiwi, it's sad. If you set fire to yourself, you go on sick call, then your TI kicks your ***. If you set fire to the whole d*** barracks, just run!!! :eek:)

4. The Glo-coat Method - Apply Johnson's Glo-coat liberally to your boots. When they dry, they will look like black mirrors. A day later, they will look like broken black mirrors. By the end of the week, they will fall apart. Then your TI kicks your *** and sends you to the disciplinary squadron for being a dumb ***.
 

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Yep. The issue you two pairs so gnarly it's unbelievable, one regular, one high top, and by the time you leave boot camp they look like patent.
I still have my lows with trees wrapped in the old thick sweat socks I left them in over thirty years ago.

I grew up the son of a career naval aviator and a hitch as an enlisted man gave me a different perspective. I am happy that I did it and honest enough to admit that I was happy when it was over.
 

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I still have my lows with trees wrapped in the old thick sweat socks I left them in over thirty years ago.

I grew up the son of a career naval aviator and a hitch as an enlisted man gave me a different perspective. I am happy that I did it and honest enough to admit that I was happy when it was over.
I have kept not a single thing. My dad and my granddad were both career Navy. I enlisted in 1967 and was enrolled in the ROC program. I got a medical discharge for sports injuries in 1971. I love the Navy as it once existed. Now they don't even have to wear leather shoes! Not very Trad!
 
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