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Love the look of the fabric...it appears to be a substantial weave and the fit of the shirt, while perhaps not ideal, is reasonably good...all around. The action back shot appears a bit tight across the shoulders, but that is probably a result of the extreme positioning of your body and not the actual sizing of the shirt. I am not a fan of darts in the back of a shirt, but please remember, my shirts are pretty much all "off the rack!" That may just be the way they do the custom shirts. Enjoy your new shirt...you are looking good. ;)
 

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Love the look of the fabric...it appears to be a substantial weave and the fit of the shirt, while perhaps not ideal, is reasonably good...all around. The action back shot appears a bit tight across the shoulders, but that is probably a result of the extreme positioning of your body and not the actual sizing of the shirt. I am not a fan of darts in the back of a shirt, but please remember, my shirts are pretty much all "off the rack!" That may just be the way they do the custom shirts. Enjoy your new shirt...you are looking good. ;)
It was supposed to be a Summer weight cyan, instead as you suggest, is more substantial Mock Leno. I bought it for the open weave and have yet to test it.

If the fit is good, then needs adjusting, as should be a great fit (only bespoke could be perfect).

The action shot isn't over extending my arms, really is tight in the back. On the shirt pattern for my bespoke shirt I am doing for myself (got behind as been "sick" almost a week, seems my blood sugar again) I did a broad back adjustment and helped a lot. I then gave them this improved measure, however, after COVID shutdown, doesn't seem they listen anymore (suspecting why their thread was closed).

You don't have to have darts in the back, I chose it because of my pelvis tilt that causes a hollow back and wanted to try the darts.
 

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It looks OK. What I can see of it, that is-your beard is covering up the collar points, so I can't make any judgment about that area.

What don't you like about the shirt?
Charles, wasn't thinking about the collar, can get that picture a little later.

What I am not comfortable with is almost a strait jacket and I am not that crazy. Wore it around the house and only could do a couple hours before absolutely frustrated not being able to out reach my arms. The website says "100% satisfied with your shirt and that it fits you perfectly. If it doesn't, we'll fix it at our cost." so should be at least a great fit (despite what they say).
 

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Adriel, if it feels uncomfortable to you, then it feels uncomfortable to you—and that’s all that matters. How the shirt appears to us is irrelevant if you don’t like how tight it is.

Get it re-done
Or get a refund.
What will it be?
You need to choose one.
 

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The fit looks good, though the body looks too short to stay tucked.

When a shirt feels like a strait jacket, it's often because the sleeves are cut poorly. When I compare my bespoke shirts to a lot of less expensive shirts from more modern brands, the less expensive shirts have the sleeves set in at a more downward angle. That's what makes the shirt feel like a strait jacket.

Can you post a photo with your arms out at your sides so I can see the sleeve angle?
 

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Adriel, if it feels uncomfortable to you, then it feels uncomfortable to you-and that's all that matters. How the shirt appears to us is irrelevant if you don't like how tight it is.

Get it re-done
Or get a refund.
What will it be?
You need to choose one.
You wouldn't believe the fight I had with them to get this shirt and I wasn't so nice (regretfully used a review to vent my frustration, fully accurate, however...). As you might be aware, I see the world in black and white so them trying to get out of the promise made on the website and previous letter, especially wasting my time by having me take and submit photographs, so thus the difficulty.

While on this subject, another company sent me six shirts, then closed for COVID (still no reply to letters), so haven't been able to resolve this. The company did one trial, fit good (didn't know what I know now), however, when received the rest of the shirts, the back was about a half inch too short. Said within tolerance and my only option was to buy all six again. Is this reasonable?

Both companies told me no refunds and my understanding is since been more than 30 days, I couldn't report the charges as fraud.
 

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The fit looks good, though the body looks too short to stay tucked.
Would it be too much material for high rise?

When a shirt feels like a strait jacket, it's often because the sleeves are cut poorly. When I compare my bespoke shirts to a lot of less expensive shirts from more modern brands, the less expensive shirts have the sleeves set in at a more downward angle. That's what makes the shirt feel like a strait jacket.
Thus why sport shirts have a shorter sleeve cap. And let me be clear, only feels tight when reaching. If was to wear this for a long session of driving, would be miserable experience.

Can you post a photo with your arms out at your sides so I can see the sleeve angle?
I am not quite understanding, so got one with the shirt laying flat.
Outerwear Textile Sleeve Grey Pattern


One closer up.
Forehead Hair Hairstyle Arm Shoulder


And then hit me should be further out (unable to eat much because of the stress).
Hand Shelf Wood Gesture Shelving
 

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If it stays comfortably tucked in now, the length is probably okay.
Don't notice it coming out, however, have hardly warn it. I rather have it a touch long and not have it get too short later (cold water here is 80 to 90*F).

The sleeve angle doesn't look so bad. The sleeve might be too narrow. A slightly wider sleeve might help.
That would add to the extended arm length, correct?

Overall, seems minor tweaks?
 

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Don't notice it coming out, however, have hardly warn it. I rather have it a touch long and not have it get too short later (cold water here is 80 to 90*F).

That would add to the extended arm length, correct?

Overall, seems minor tweaks?
Sleeve width has nothing to do with the length, but it should add to the comfort and help you move better.
 

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Sleeve width has nothing to do with the length, but it should add to the comfort and help you move better.
Matt, thank you for indulging a curiosity. I was not thinking about the actual sleeve length, instead, the additional width allowing more ease when the arms are forward, I can see it in my head, just not sure how to draw or put into words. Doesn't matter anyway, now know the ease has no affect on the changed length.
 

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@Charles Dana, regarding the other company, sending me a mailing label, will see how it goes.

As for the first, tailoring acquaintance had me measure the button holes versus the buttons, turns out 0,5cm incorrect placement. I been wracking my brain trying to think how to say this without being offensive.
 

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@Charles Dana, regarding the other company, sending me a mailing label, will see how it goes.

As for the first, tailoring acquaintance had me measure the button holes versus the buttons, turns out 0,5cm incorrect placement. I been wracking my brain trying to think how to say this without being offensive.
From what I've read, 1/4" is within sewing tolerance. 0.5cm is slightly less than that.
 

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From what I've read, 1/4" is within sewing tolerance. 0.5cm is slightly less than that.
Well, the "contract" does say "100% satisfied with your shirt and that it fits you perfectly. If it doesn't, we'll fix it at our cost." Or am I interpreting incorrectly?
 

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Well, the "contract" does say "100% satisfied with your shirt and that it fits you perfectly. If it doesn't, we'll fix it at our cost." Or am I interpreting incorrectly?
For sewing tolerances, it depends on the company. Here is proper cloth's reference chart for example


I'd be more concerned about the shirt being too tight, than a button hole being 0.5cm off.

If you're not satisfied, then you're not satisfied.
 
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