[EclecticSr.]

This subject has come up from time to time on the forum and many of the opinions by the many astute members, when combined, I find for the most part valid as to what got us here. Having witnessed the evolution of men's clothing for the past 70 plus years, I care not a whit what some pimply faced so called journalists think. Most of us won't be swayed from our position regarding dressing well. I do on the other hand am more interested in what members think the future of men's clothing will look like.

 

[EclecticSr.]

He may well be considered well dressed 30-40 years from now. Thankfully, won't be here to witness.

 

[EclecticSr.]

I play golf every Friday in the summer with the same group of guys. We will switch from week to week at each other's club. 5 to 10 years ago, you wouldn't even dare to come into the men's grill room after golf with a pair of jeans. You would be politely asked to go change or leave. Guests had to be warned to leave their phone in the car and bring a sportcoat to wear if you were going to the dining room for post golf dinner. An air of formality was palpable when you pulled onto the property. Now--guys will be on their phones while playing golf and unbelievably, have a blutooth speaker in their golf carts for music. Many will put on a pair of jeans for a beer or 4 after golf. This all in the past few years at a club that was known for its snob factor. I think the fact is we all enjoy dressing well, but there may be a time and place. The millennials may be on to something.

Can recall a similar scenario some years ago before I retired. Invited to a club by a member for lunch along with a colleague . The club having a dress code would at times allow non members to dine. As we sat, two gentlemen walked in to dine very casually dressed, jacket less, tee shirts and casual trousers. Our host immediately called over the Maitre De and directed him to refuse seating the pair. It wasn't so long ago that at many fine restaurants had a dress code, alas such may not be the case any longer.
I know of only one within driving distance from home and I book early.
No snob am I, very far from it but I will not succumb to what some millennials wish to dictate to pass for decent dress.

 

[EclecticSr.]

The issue of dress codes and appropriate attire aside, that move by your host would have turned me off in a big way. Did he think that show of power would impress his two guests, or was he that bothered by the offending parties' dress that he couldn't help but ask the attendant to intervene, despite the impression the move might create with his guests?

There you go again. Now you are turned off by someone trying to maintain the requirements of a private club that as a very high membership fee and certain requirements to maintain membership. Appropriate dress requirement clearly stated for everyone to see at entrance to dining room which by the way was occupied by other properly dressed members. Show of power, no, you weren't there. I myself couldn't care a whit about being member of such clubs, gun clubs more my thing. Nor would I care about what offends you. PC not my shtick.

So, you wouldn't be offended if someone driving a jalopy blows through a stop sign /red light traffic control because he didn't think the rules apply to him and he T-bones your Bentley. The officer who arrives at the scene tells you that you shouldn't be driving around in such an expensive car and doesn't cite the other driver, you shake it off as not to offend the driver of the jalopy. Yea, I don't know if you own a Bentley.

 

[EclecticSr.]

^ Yeah, if I really, really cared that another patron in a country club dining room was flouting the dress code (and it's not necessarily bad to really, really care about such a thing in that setting), maybe-maybe-I'd have a small chat with the restaurant manager after my meal: I'd ask him/her how come the dress code wasn't being enforced. [Correction: If I were a longstanding member of the club, I'd probably have the chat.] But that's all-a chat. I wouldn't interrupt my meal so that I could arrange for the under-dressed diner to be ejected from the room. That would be going a little too far.

Now if that person were to crash his jalopy into my table, thereby knocking my Shrimp Louis into the lap of my new linen trousers from Ben Silver....

Thanks for providing your persuasive argument, much better analogy.

 

[EclecticSr.]

I think the era of the jacket required restaurant is just about gone - an anachronistic vestige of the past. There are only a few restaurants where I find the need to get dressed up. And when people eventually stop going completely to those restaurants - in effect, when the dress code starts to hurt their business then there will be another nail in the coffin.

I don't disagree, I said earlier I know of only one restaurant within reasonable driving distance that still has a dress code and as far as I can tell it doesn't seem to be hurting their business. If and when they drop the code I will still patronize them, I like the food and atmosphere. Not the only restaurant I dine at. I don't come to the forum claiming any moral high ground, superior intellect and knowledge and other than the occasional joke, I try to avoid ridiculing, mocking and insulting others regardless the topic and fortunately hasn't happened to me much but I have witnessed it towards others on many occasions. Hypocrisy, disingenuous, all bets off then. Run down off that high ground, do a drive-by then scamper back up.