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My purpose in posting this is pure sublimation. I.e., I really like it, but I ain't gonna buy it, for many good reasons. (And don't try to convince me otherwise, Eagle! :() But this is a really interesting shoe for a variety of reasons.

For those interested in Trad/Ivy League, both the brogue and dirty buck were footwear standards of that style. This shoe combines both. Was that ever, in fact, done? Sure! While less common, I remember them. But what's more important, these two aesthetics are here combined into what I consider a very handsome casual shoe. While the maker is English, the aesthetic is identical to what an American shoe from that era would look like. (If it were this well made!)

As some no doubt know, I'm an enthusiast of Sander's shoes for their quality and value. This is part of their casual range, as are 3 of the 4 pair of their shoes I currently own. I note in browsing their current casual offerings that, sadly, some of the models I liked are no longer being made, and many replacements are more of the tennis/trainer variety, though still made at Sanders with the same quality build. This model is new too, but is a traditional style, and to my eye the best of the new. Also comes in navy suede.

I'm showing it here for any whom it might interest as a means to exorcising my buying demons! I have no commercial interest, or involvement with Sanders, or any retailer, beyond being an enthusiast of Sanders' offerings.

https://www.sanders-uk.com/shop/product/theo-1705dls

 

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I love that shoe. I have a cheaper version of it from five or so seasons ago that J.Peterman put out. It is incredibly versatile - it dresses up or down and looks classic but in a not-stuffy way. Like you, I am not going to allow myself to buy this one as I have one close enough (he tells himself with as much conviction he can fake).
 

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I love that shoe. I have a cheaper version of it from five or so seasons ago that J.Peterman put out. It is incredibly versatile - it dresses up or down and looks classic but in a not-stuffy way. Like you, I am not going to allow myself to buy this one as I have one close enough (he tells himself with as much conviction he can fake).
I remember that Peterman shoe. Italian made, I think? Very nice, I debated also purchasing it, but decided not to for the same reasons - while I don't have this specific shoe, I have others that fit the same wardrobe niche, and I really don't need more shoes. (Though I know Eagle would find the second part of that sentence an oxymoron! ;))

Here's the same Sanders shoe in navy. Very nice in navy too!
 

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I remember that Peterman shoe. Italian made, I think? Very nice, I debated also purchasing it, but decided not to for the same reasons - while I don't have this specific shoe, I have others that fit the same wardrobe niche, and I really don't need more shoes. (Though I know Eagle would find the second part of that sentence an oxymoron! ;))

Here's the same Sanders shoe in navy. Very nice in navy too!
My memory agrees with yours in that they were Italian made, but no brand was mentioned. And as with all Peterman purchases, I waited for one of the many sales, but don't remember what I paid, but kinda think, on sale, it was in the $100 range.

They aren't the best made shoe, but to be fair, for the price, they have held up reasonably well, look nice and (maybe not a sign of the best construction, but it does increase the comfort in the summer as they) are quite light. The red sole though would take them up a full notch.
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I remember that Peterman shoe. Italian made, I think? Very nice, I debated also purchasing it, but decided not to for the same reasons - while I don't have this specific shoe, I have others that fit the same wardrobe niche, and I really don't need more shoes. (Though I know Eagle would find the second part of that sentence an oxymoron! ;))

Here's the same Sanders shoe in navy. Very nice in navy too!
LOL. I have a pair of AE navy suede short wings, but oh how I wish they were fitted with brick red rubber soles. Perhaps it's time to arrange with B. Nelson Shoe Repair to make that happen? The old soles have very little wear on them, but it would be cheaper than buying a new pair. Hmmm? :icon_scratch:
 

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I don't check out Peterman's site often, but should as it usually has a few interesting items (amidst a bunch of meh stuff). This thread got me to look and I saw these (hard as heck to get a picture to download as the site has a quirky set up that makes it difficult to capture the image):

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On sale for $71 - left over from summer - and probably great value if they still have your size.
 

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A couple years ago, there was a Ralph Lauren white buck shortwing bal on eBay that I was watching for a while. Beautiful shoe, and with a leather sole (I love my white bucks on red brick, but the leather made it look pretty elegant). I still regret not picking that up when I had the chance
 

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My memory agrees with yours in that they were Italian made, but no brand was mentioned. And as with all Peterman purchases, I waited for one of the many sales, but don't remember what I paid, but kinda think, on sale, it was in the $100 range.

They aren't the best made shoe, but to be fair, for the price, they have held up reasonably well, look nice and (maybe not a sign of the best construction, but it does increase the comfort in the summer as they) are quite light. The red sole though would take them up a full notch.
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They're still a really nice looking pair of shoes, and an exceptional value at that price. Seems Italy still has plenty of smaller makers who'll do private label for everyone. And the great thing is while they might not be world-class, they're still better than average, and can be quite stylish.

LOL. I have a pair of AE navy suede short wings, but oh how I wish they were fitted with brick red rubber soles. Perhaps it's time to arrange with B. Nelson Shoe Repair to make that happen? The old soles have very little wear on them, but it would be cheaper than buying a new pair. Hmmm? :icon_scratch:
You likely know this, but Nick has both brick red EVA (sponge) and brick red Dainite available for resoles. I investigated this not long ago because I have a pair of shoes that currently have EVA soles that I quickly chewed up, and I'm considering having them resoled with the much tougher Dainite. But it all depends on your needs and preferences.

(Or you could just pick a pair of those swank Sanders brogues in navy for only $274. The suede looks like velvet! ;))
 

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I remember that Peterman shoe. Italian made, I think? Very nice, I debated also purchasing it, but decided not to for the same reasons - while I don't have this specific shoe, I have others that fit the same wardrobe niche, and I really don't need more shoes. (Though I know Eagle would find the second part of that sentence an oxymoron! ;))

Here's the same Sanders shoe in navy. Very nice in navy too!
 
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