If one has a jacket, walking around without it is a little ridiculous, if it is just to cas down the outfit. If one walks around proudly displaying braces, it's even more so.

To build an outfit around casual trousers, a shirt and braces will inevitably look ridiculous to me. I wear braces with some workwear (cordura type work wear) outside of a t-shirt when doing construction or carpentry, but for actual casual wear, it's a look that is just a little too precious. Especially, God forbid, with a bow tie. And I'm very forgiving on people looking matchy or precious. But braces no jacket is borderline Old West reenactment guy meets pretentious flannel shirt bearded guy.

If that guys tells me he's a 'gentleman who prefers micro brewery beer' I'm running for the hills.

Haha those bow tie wearing microbrewry (sorry, craft beer) gents really get my goat. I caught a glimpse of one of them in the wild a little while back, he had a silent-film-villain-whose-just-tied-a-woman-to-the-train-tracks waxed moustache and, I kid you not, he was twirling it. Give me a stout beer or some moonshine any old day. I would never wear a bow tie with braces and no jacket, unless perhaps the bow was a really rough, casual material and even then it would be damn hard to pull off, because what's the reason for no jacket? It's too hot? Then why am I wearing a bow tie.

 

Times were that men dominated the workplace and women rarely ventured into offices as workers or clients, so that occasional exposed support garment was acceptably in-sync with the environment which called for the removal of the outer coat.
Those times have changed. Yes, suspenders can be worn deliberately, but with risk of veering off the accepted mode of attire. It becomes a "look" which is sometimes okay in the work world. Each situation is different.
I must add this note: most men's dress trouser is not made to be most attractive from the rear when being literally suspended by braces sitting on the shoulders. After all, they are not cut as a jean around the hip area. The suit pant tends to have a barrel look around the waist/hip, so unless one is sure that the look is attractive sans a jacket - go with caution on this!
Suspenders are not underwear but they are a support garment made into an accessory. A nice suspender or a sturdy and necessary workers suspender is okay to show. The question I believe is how will the shirt look and what about the rear view of the trousers? Pants look nice with a belt or with the beltless waistband, but suspended is a different matter.

 

Times were that men dominated the workplace and women rarely ventured into offices as workers or clients, so that occasional exposed support garment was acceptably in-sync with the environment which called for the removal of the outer coat.
Those times have changed. Yes, suspenders can be worn deliberately, but with risk of veering off the accepted mode of attire. It becomes a "look" which is sometimes okay in the work world. Each situation is different.
I must add this note: most men's dress trouser is not made to be most attractive from the rear when being literally suspended by braces sitting on the shoulders. After all, they are not cut as a jean around the hip area. The suit pant tends to have a barrel look around the waist/hip, so unless one is sure that the look is attractive sans a jacket - go with caution on this!
Suspenders are not underwear but they are a support garment made into an accessory. A nice suspender or a sturdy and necessary workers suspender is okay to show. The question I believe is how will the shirt look and what about the rear view of the trousers? Pants look nice with a belt or with the beltless waistband, but suspended is a different matter.

You make some good points, and I'm glad you raised the issue of how the shirt will look. As a regular suspender wearer, a question I grapple with is: should the shirt have a breast pocket and does it look bad if it does? Most of my shirts have a breast pocket, I'm just used to it. Sure they could be removed but I'm not sure if it would leave marks or even be worth it. The point is the pocket is rendered useless with a strap over it, but it still maintains it's function appearance when the strap is gone.

 

Times were that men dominated the workplace and women rarely ventured into offices as workers or clients, so that occasional exposed support garment was acceptably in-sync with the environment which called for the removal of the outer coat.
Those times have changed. Yes, suspenders can be worn deliberately, but with risk of veering off the accepted mode of attire. It becomes a "look" which is sometimes okay in the work world. Each situation is different.
I must add this note: most men's dress trouser is not made to be most attractive from the rear when being literally suspended by braces sitting on the shoulders. After all, they are not cut as a jean around the hip area. The suit pant tends to have a barrel look around the waist/hip, so unless one is sure that the look is attractive sans a jacket - go with caution on this!
Suspenders are not underwear but they are a support garment made into an accessory. A nice suspender or a sturdy and necessary workers suspender is okay to show. The question I believe is how will the shirt look and what about the rear view of the trousers? Pants look nice with a belt or with the beltless waistband, but suspended is a different matter.

I'm sorry, but this makes no sense to me. The same pants worn with a belt or suspenders have the same cut, so will look the same which ever one you wear.

Most importantly though, there is no getting around the fact that a belt is a support garment, yet you say that it has become more of a fashion accessory ,so it is OK to show them. So, if belts can make this transition, why the reluctance to "allow" suspenders the same latitude?

 

Should you have been addressing me, thank you! It's been so long since anyone called me dude!

I have no aversion to anyone removing their jacket and displaying their suspenders (standard American usage. ) while in more relaxed mode in their place of business. I would always promptly remove mine, and then usually turn back my shirt cuffs as well unless I was wearing French cuffs. This once prompted a female colleague to request that I give her mine (black racehorses with jockeys embroidered on tan silk,) as they would perfectly complete an outfit she had. Reining in my filthy mind, I courteously demurred.

OMG big laugh !

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I'm sorry, but this makes no sense to me. The same pants worn with a belt or suspenders have the same cut, so will look the same which ever one you wear.

Most importantly though, there is no getting around the fact that a belt is a support garment, yet you say that it has become more of a fashion accessory ,so it is OK to show them. So, if belts can make this transition, why the reluctance to "allow" suspenders the same latitude?

Generally, trousers to be worn with braces can/should be cut a little differently from those worn with belts, since belts cinch the trousers and braces do not. I have a couple of suits and some slacks I wear with braces and they are about 1 inch larger.

Trousers worn with belts can very well be a little tighter in themselves, if they are a little wide where they cinch they will look off. Trousers worn with braces should really be just a little bit suspended via the braces from the shoulder (thus hanging from the shoulder). Not flap about or anything, but not pulling in any way around the waist/bottom/groin/upper thigh. Trousers with a belt, slightly different.

Braces to me are a bit like bra straps or hosier suspenders. Can they be displayed? Sure. Should they? Depends.

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Generally, trousers to be worn with braces can/should be cut a little differently from those worn with belts, since belts cinch the trousers and braces do not. I have a couple of suits and some slacks I wear with braces and they are about 1 inch larger.

They may be looser in the waist, but not in the seat. Unless you are only wearing bespoke suits. Almost all suits come with both belt loops and suspender buttons or they come with loops and you have to have the buttons added.

 

They may be looser in the waist, but not in the seat. Unless you are only wearing bespoke suits. Almost all suits come with both belt loops and suspender buttons or they come with loops and you have to have the buttons added.

I've mto:ed the suits and slacks I've got suspender buttons on. I asked for buttons only.

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