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When it comes to old fashioned shirts, everybody should obviously have dress shirts and polo shirts. But between a popover shirt and rayon camp collar "sport shirts" which do you people prefer?
 

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Based on the numbers of each item found in my closet, I guess the answer to your question would be both, with the sport shirts holding a solid lead. Several years back I became aware of and purchased (I think was) seven or eight popover shirt designs...my favorites of those being O'Connell's and J. Press. The cloth those shirts were made of seemed a bit heftier and they wore more handsomely that the other brands. My recommendation is to get a few of each style and enjoy the diversity in your wardrobe. ;)
 

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Personally I'm just not a fan of popover shirts (or other shirts of similar architecture, like Henleys, baseball collared shirts, etc), so I'd go with the camp shirt style.

That said, there's no reason to limit one's self to rayon; silk, linen, cotton lawn (shilling Tori Richard here, as usual) are superior alternatives.

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I think I've decided to go with pique cotton long sleeve shirts, probably with a chest pocket. I think it splits the difference nicely between a regular dress shirt and a short sleeve polo. The closest shirt style I can think of is this pique button down from BB.
Sleeve Dress shirt Collar Grey Blazer


I've tried Chambray in the past and didn't like the feel of it. Popovers the more I look at them seem too much like those 1800s style pajamas and probably won't look good on me.
 

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Reviving this old thread with another question: I've decided instead for my ideal warm weather sport shirt to be a cotton plain weave shirt in white, blue and cream with double chest pockets in the vein of a work shirt/safari shirt. What I'm still unsure of is which collar type and sleeve length to go with. Would it be more versatile to have a regular shirt collar or a camp collar and short sleeve or long sleeve? Examples of long sleeve varieties are shown below.
Outerwear Shirt Dress shirt Black Neck


Sleeve Grey Collar T-shirt Electric blue
 

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With the choices put forth I think you're talking more about style than versatility. I assume you want the double chest pockets for looks rather than actually using them. Please don't use them, their position on your anatomy, the buttons on the pockets where nipples would be, with stuff bulging in the pockets you'd be highlighting a look I don't think a guy really wants.

You're thinking of having these made or you're inquiring as to where to buy them? I don't know. As far as long sleeve versus short sleeve, a long sleeve can always be made a short sleeve, but not the opposite and this now does get into the neighborhood of versatility. I think the long sleeve is far more versatile then the short. Collar wise, I don't know what a camp collar is. I think it's just a loose limp thing that lays sort of flat around the neck, very casual, very 50s. A camp bottom is something totally different, one I would suggest you consider if you want to wear the shirts untucked.

The first picture you posted above, if Las Vegas ever gets it's own army, that's how they'll dress their soldiers.
 

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What would any of you consider the warm weather equivalent of an OCBD?
A loose fitting all linen shirt with the top two buttons unbuttoned, maybe the bottom one, too, with the sleeves rolled up. It would be closely followed by gingham or Madras worn the same way. There! I have just revealed my five shirt summer shirt wardrobe! i have a like sized array of O'Connell's polos, all largely relegated to driving range and golf course.
 

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I think I've decided to go with pique cotton long sleeve shirts, probably with a chest pocket. I think it splits the difference nicely between a regular dress shirt and a short sleeve polo. The closest shirt style I can think of is this pique button down from BB.
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I've tried Chambray in the past and didn't like the feel of it. Popovers the more I look at them seem too much like those 1800s style pajamas and probably won't look good on me.
IME chambray, Madras, and linen are the fabrics that show the greatest improvement in softness as they age. I would not give up on chambray until it had been washed probably a couple dozen times. The color of the old USN chambrays lightened dramatically over time, a real plus to me.
 

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With the choices put forth I think you're talking more about style than versatility. I assume you want the double chest pockets for looks rather than actually using them. Please don't use them, their position on your anatomy, the buttons on the pockets where nipples would be, with stuff bulging in the pockets you'd be highlighting a look I don't think a guy really wants.

You're thinking of having these made or you're inquiring as to where to buy them? I don't know. As far as long sleeve versus short sleeve, a long sleeve can always be made a short sleeve, but not the opposite and this now does get into the neighborhood of versatility. I think the long sleeve is far more versatile then the short. Collar wise, I don't know what a camp collar is. I think it's just a loose limp thing that lays sort of flat around the neck, very casual, very 50s. A camp bottom is something totally different, one I would suggest you consider if you want to wear the shirts untucked.
The double pockets are just for looks. I like the style of USN chambray shirts and Indiana Jones esque safari shirts but hate chambray as I don't find it soft or breathable. I've also had two cotton linen blend shirts that don't breath that well compared to 100% cotton.
And yes I would have it custom made, the photos are just examples. So you think a regular collar is an all around better choice?
 

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Hmm. Sorry to hear that. Hopefully some of the cotton or linen shirts suggested above might be good. I am not sure you would like a guayabera or a Manila shirt, both staples in other parts of the world where the weather is quite warm.
 

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Hmm. Sorry to hear that. Hopefully some of the cotton or linen shirts suggested above might be good. I am not sure you would like a guayabera or a Manila shirt, both staples in other parts of the world where the weather is quite warm.
Yeah I dont like those 4 pocket Guayabera shirts, but what's a manila shirt? I tried looking it up but all I got was pictures of t shirts with the word Manila on them.
 

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what's a manila shirt?
It's an old-fashioned term (1950s) for a shirt that is worn outside the trousers and has square tails, often with a two inch vent at the bottom of each side seam. Sometimes it has a straight short point collar, sometimes a camp collar, and it is made out of soft thin cotton. Not hugely different from the guayabera, except that it has no decorations on it. It is airy and comfortable in the tropics. When I was growing up in Kuala Lumpur, I saw it worn often, and I believe I had a couple.
 
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