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Does anyone else like the clothing Sidney Paget depicted in the original Sherlock Holmes stories. (I would post pictures, but the will not show up.)
I think they provide an excellent window in to late Victorian/early Edwardian fashion.
 
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Holmes is typecast in the Deerstalker, Inverness and Calabash pipe, the last a theatrical devise by a stage actor .What the Basil Rathbone series did to Doctor Watson is insulting.

There are many clubs and references for the Homes fan. I own one of the 19th century hansom cabs used in those movies. I bought it when Hollywood went on a selling binge some years back. Now they rent it back which pays for my own horse's keep.
 
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Have you seen the 80's Granada (UK TV company) adaptions with Jeremy Brett as Holmes and David Burke/Edward Hardwicke playing your good self.

I think most people would say these programs took great pride in their attention to detail and this included the clothes. I would guess they spent a small fortune at Saville Row during production.

You can buy them on DVD or most probably watch them online.

Other ITV programs worth searching for for historical and good clothing would be David Suchet as Hercule Poirot (30's), Michael Kitchen in Foyle's War (40's), Michael Gambon as Maigret (Not so well dressed but still smarter than today and covering the 50's) and if you really want period detail how about Derek Jacobi as a medieval monk in Cadfael, with very good detail as to clothing and day to day life.

Another one with Michael Kitchen but not a series is Dandelion Dead a two parter with a high degree of fashion (20's style).

Its not just the BBC making good TV in the UK

Bob
 
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Kav said:
Holmes is typecast in the Deerstalker, Inverness and Calabash pipe, the last a theatrical devise by a stage actor .What the Basil Rathbone series did to Doctor Watson is insulting.

There are many clubs and references for the Homes fan. I own one of the 19th century hansom cabs used in those movies. I bought it when Hollywood went on a selling binge some years back. Now they rent it back which pays for my own horse's keep.
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Kav,

If I'm ever in California I know who and what I want waiting for me at the airport.:icon_smile_big:
 
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Agree with the Granada production - Jeremy Brett was superb as Holmes. Such a shame he died in middle age. He could have carried the role off for years.

Speaking of great fashion - What about Robert Powell as Richard Hannay in 'The 39 Steps?'
 
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Agree with the Granada production - Jeremy Brett was superb as Holmes. Such a shame he died in middle age. He could have carried the role off for years.
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Agreed. My local PBS station has been rebroadcasting these recently and I'm loving them. Brett was so overwhelmingly perfect in the role that I can't imagine anyone else doing justice. Apparently he had a speech impediment early in life, but daily training & practice resulted in him overcoming the impediment, giving us his incredibly precise diction.

The Paget drawings are great and were the reason for the deerstalker and Inverness cape. I have a collected works with the Paget drawings which states that the costume is not mentioned in the text, but Paget just used normal fashions of the period in his drawings and it stuck.

The Brett television series uses the deerstalker and Inverness only rarely, when him and Watson are out in the country.
 
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The Granada Series was the best. Jeremy Brett did not act as Holmes he was Holmes. They took such care with every little detail, down to the Watson's picture of Gordon on the wall.

To Kav,
I think the problem with Rathbones' Deerstalker was that it was worn in town. Holmes, though depicted with such a hat in the original illustrations, only wore it in its natural habitat, the country. He wore a proper hat in town.

I personally dislike Rathbones' movies because I am portrayed as a bumbling fool. :mad:
 
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Dr.Watson said:
Does anyone else like the clothing Sidney Paget depicted in the original Sherlock Holmes stories. (I would post pictures, but the will not show up.)
I think they provide an excellent window in to late Victorian/early Edwardian fashion.
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Dr. Watson:

I'm a big fan of Sherlock Holmes!

To post photos read the third "Sticky" post on this Forum.
 
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A UK maker of inverness capes posted here some time back With some good Holmes links. I know it was very appropriate in the country. I want one in ghilly Green.

The only problem picking anyone up at LAX are the carry laws. My 26" Westly-Richards in .30 WR would do nicely for drivebys though.
 
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Yes, certainly a fan, although I don't really carry it out into practice often (I do have a s/b frock coat and a 3-button morning coat which can pass for that period which I do sometimes wear, but not usually with the stick-up or high wing collar, as I used to do once upon a time.)
 
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Ahh... Sherlock Holmes. I was reading the third of Conan Doyle's four collctions just last night. Complete with Sidney Paget's illustrations. They are indeed beautiful. And capture the darkness yet subtle ellegance of the period so very well.

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I especially like the way that all dress is so accutely depicted.

There are so many even more beautiful illustrations in the Wordsworth Editions of the canon.

Happy Google-image-hunting!
 
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The illustrations are wonderful indeed.

I love the one in A Case of Identity with Holmes half-asleep. Brilliantly languid & ethereal depiction. There's also a great one in the Blue Carbuncle with Holmes and Watson closely examining the felt hat of Mr Henry Baker, perched as it is on the back of a chair. And the swamp-adder in Specked Band, wrapped around the villain's head like a turban. :)

Silver Blaze has some of the classic Deerstalker illustrations. The illustration of Holmes and Watson in the railway carriage Mr Pipps has posted above comes from that story, I think.
 
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Thanks Mr. Pipps for the pictures, beautiful, simply beatiful, selections.

I have always rather liked the one in "The Crooked Man", with Holmes hanging his hat on Watson's hat peg, and the several illustrations in "Hound of the Baskervilles," my personal favorite story.

I am in the process of turning "Speckled Band" into a screen play for some friends and I to do over Christmas break.
 
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Fans should search for the collected Sherlock Holmes stores which were issued in a single omnibus book. It included all of the Holmes stories, plus most (if not all) of the Paget illustrations. I've seen several copies floating around in used bookstores up here, so they seem to be readily available. Seeing the original illustrations in the context of their stories is priceless.

By the way, plans are afoot for another big-screen adaptation of Holmes set for 2009 or sometime. Apparently, Holmes will be played by Robert Downey Jr, Watson by Jude Law, and the director will be...get this...Guy Ritchie. I cannot think of a less appropriate cast or director for this material.
 
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Doctor Damage said:
Fans should search for the collected Sherlock Holmes stores which were issued in a single omnibus book. It included all of the Holmes stories, plus most (if not all) of the Paget illustrations. I've seen several copies floating around in used bookstores up here, so they seem to be readily available. Seeing the original illustrations in the context of their stories is priceless.
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The best collection in my opinion is the Annotated Sherlock Holmes. I have the Baring Gould edition which I swear by, but I heard that the new Leslie Klinger edition is pretty good as well.
 
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