[Acct2000]

LOL. I'm frequently poorly dressed by the standards here. I write a local high school basketball blog. I frequently wear ties (but with a leather jacket, not with sport coats, etc.) to basketball games so I can easily be recognized and get the information I need - - especially in gyms where I am not well known.

I know I stick out in a gym where even coaches frequently don't wear ties. (In two district semifinals tonight, not one of the four coaches wore a tie - - some in my area (Lansing, MI) still do - - but it's less than 20% of them.) If it makes people curious about what I'm doing there and they ask about the blog, that's actually helpful. (Most of the time, sport coats would be too much and I clamber in and out of bleachers at half time, etc.)

I'm ridiculously overdressed, but I'm 61 and deliberately do it for the attention. In small town gyms where the blog is popular and I'm pretty well known, I just wear a shirt and khakis - - in that situation, dressing over the top would be "putting on airs."

 

[eagle2250]

LOL. I'm frequently poorly dressed by the standards here. I write a local high school basketball blog. I frequently wear ties (but with a leather jacket, not with sport coats, etc.) to basketball games so I can easily be recognized and get the information I need - - especially in gyms where I am not well known.

I know I stick out in a gym where even coaches frequently don't wear ties. (In two district semifinals tonight, not one of the four coaches wore a tie - - some in my area (Lansing, MI) still do - - but it's less than 20% of them.) If it makes people curious about what I'm doing there and they ask about the blog, that's actually helpful. (Most of the time, sport coats would be too much and I clamber in and out of bleachers at half time, etc.)

I'm ridiculously overdressed, but I'm 61 and deliberately do it for the attention. In small town gyms where the blog is popular and I'm pretty well known, I just wear a shirt and khakis - - in that situation, dressing over the top would be "putting on airs."

It was good seeing your post this morning. My friend, you do a lot of good with your blog. Hope is all is going well!

 

[Howard]

Howard, you're a mensch. A real mensch. (That's a compliment.)

Thanks Charles, if you want to overdress then so be it, that's you.

 

[Howard]

You are indeed a Mensch Howard, our Mensch.

Thanks.

 

[Redsrover]

After 25 years in the financial services and wealth management industry, I retired this summer from a firm with a long history of classic professional attire. Men were required to wear suits or sport coats and ties daily until "casual Friday" became a thing in the early 2000's. When I left we were just getting into a more relaxed code of dress, for both men and women. The women in the office were decided more casual, depending on their role or "importance" and whether or not they interacted with clients.

Fast forward to today...I've joined, as a partial owner, a leisure lifestyle brand specializing in branded apparel and accessories of the sporting/outdoors nature. To be sure, there is no real dress code beyond "appropriate coverage of the body". Most wear our branded apparel, which is terrific and colorful and comfortable. Due mainly to my personality, but a little to my position/role, I wear long and short-sleeved collared sport shirts (OCBD, gingham, etc.), and usually well tailored 5-pocket pants (Peter Millar, Sid M., J.Crew) daily. I achieve a sock-less look with no-shows and wear a variety of loafers (Rancourt, Gucci bits) and others (bluchers, boat shoes, boots). I'm new to the team so I am sure I'm viewed as different due to that, and the way I dress. I've heard people mention my collection of polo/gaucho belts and most recently an African beaded belt I received from a friend on his return from Nairobi. Anyway, I mention all this because some of the men on the team have started to step up their game. Tucked in shirts, nice belts, sharp trousers or pants, tailored looks. I overhear one of the ladies in a breakroom conversation this week say that the ladies were going to have to go buy some new outfits to keep up with the sharp looking guys. I like it!!

 

[Troones]

Some women who work in the same building as I were discussing personal styles of dress. One of them told me my style was to be ridiculously overdressed.

I hope your day is going as well...

Hans

Some women who work in the same building as I were discussing personal styles of dress. One of them told me my style was to be ridiculously overdressed.

I hope your day is going as well...

Hans

In my years working in the financial services industry, I have experienced numerous such unsolicited comments regarding my appearance, mostly from female colleagues. One particularly rude individual loudly proclaimed that she couldn't picture me having sex! Must be nice, that kind of freedom of expression. My under my breath reply was "well, thanks for trying anyway."

I've been asked why I'm "all dressed up" as many here have mentioned. I always felt like responding with "because I'm in a management position with one of the top five banks in the country." More and more it seems that being well dressed is taken as a negative. As something to be suspicious of.

 

[Matt S]

In my years working in the financial services industry, I have experienced numerous such unsolicited comments regarding my appearance, mostly from female colleagues. One particularly rude individual loudly proclaimed that she couldn't picture me having sex! Must be nice, that kind of freedom of expression. My under my breath reply was "well, thanks for trying anyway."

I've been asked why I'm "all dressed up" as many here have mentioned. I always felt like responding with "because I'm in a management position with one of the top five banks in the country." More and more it seems that being well dressed is taken as a negative. As something to be suspicious of.

That last point is unfortunate. And it's because they don't like people in your profession. There are unquestionably bad bankers out there, which have given the honest ones a bad name.

 

[Flanderian]

One particularly rude individual loudly proclaimed that she couldn't picture me having sex!

She was just letting you know what was on her mind! :devil:

 

[Troones]

That last point is unfortunate. And it's because they don't like people in your profession. There are unquestionably bad bankers out there, which have given the honest ones a bad name.

I totally agree about the bad bankers. But I'm actually referring to fellow bankers/colleagues asking why I'm "dressed up." I'm not sure about the U.S., but my experience in Canadian banking, is that everyone below senior executive level dresses "business casual", which in its current state, seems to mean no jeans Monday-Thursday, and try not to have stains on your polo shirt.

 

[Matt S]

I totally agree about the bad bankers. But I'm actually referring to fellow bankers/colleagues asking why I'm "dressed up." I'm not sure about the U.S., but my experience in Canadian banking, is that everyone below senior executive level dresses "business casual", which in its current state, seems to mean no jeans Monday-Thursday, and try not to have stains on your polo shirt.

That is odd that your colleagues don't get it in a field where suits are still worn (in the US).

 

[MNJ83]

"Ridiculously overdressed" for a great majority of men (and women) today means "anything that is not jeans and a t-shirt" . I have worked in both finance and insurance since leaving college in 2007 and I have seen the precipitous fall in standards. When I started working 10 years ago I already heard the older gentlemen comment on the lack of dress attire........today, just like almost every other aspect of civilization, standards in men's dress have fallen so greatly, that all that is left is personal expression.

A man in a suit, is too "toxic" or offensive to the legions of estrogen filled [edited] boys and their perpetually offended female counterparts.

 

[smmrfld]

too "toxic" or offensive to the legions of estrogen filled soy-boys

Speaking of toxic and offensive...

 

[EclecticSr.]

When I started working 10 years ago I already heard the older gentlemen comment on the lack of dress attire........

Nice to know someone heard us.

 

[JLibourel]

"Estrogen-filled soy-boys"--what a great turn of phrase!

 

[Jgarner197]

"Ridiculously overdressed" for a great majority of men (and women) today means "anything that is not jeans and a t-shirt" . I have worked in both finance and insurance since leaving college in 2007 and I have seen the precipitous fall in standards. When I started working 10 years ago I already heard the older gentlemen comment on the lack of dress attire........today, just like almost every other aspect of civilization, standards in men's dress have fallen so greatly, that all that is left is personal expression.

A man in a suit, is too "toxic" or offensive to the legions of estrogen filled [edited] boys and their perpetually offended female counterparts.

Well said sir! Especially loved the second paragraph! Absolutely well played. We clearly see eye to eye.

 

[MNJ83]

Well said sir! Especially loved the second paragraph! Absolutely well played. We clearly see eye to eye.

Thanks.

Unfortunately my post had to be edited for using the word "soy" as "racially offensive"

My apologies if anyone was offended. I thought it was a well known fact that soy has tons of estrogen and can affect mens' testosterone levels.

 

[Jgarner197]

Thanks.

Unfortunately my post had to be edited for using the word "soy" as "racially offensive"

My apologies if anyone was offended. I thought it was a well known fact that soy has tons of estrogen and can affect mens' testosterone levels.

Hahaha! I certainly I knew that! Not sure what race that would have offended but clearly you didn't mean it that way. Having you explain it actually is making it even funnier. Reminds me a little of a classic Norm Macdonald bit

 

[JLibourel]

Hunh? I didn't take the "soy" reference to be any kind of racial slur. I thought it referred to the wimps who prefer bean sprouts, tofu and such to steak.

 

[zzdocxx]

Hunh? I didn't take the "soy" reference to be any kind of racial slur. I thought it referred to the wimps who prefer bean sprouts and such to steak.

Yeah there have been suggestions of a connection between soy products and estrogen, you can look it up and it seems to be a matter of dispute.

I was just thinking how long-lived this thread has been and then was pleasantly surprised to see JL here, Hello!

 

[Shaver]

Thanks.

Unfortunately my post had to be edited for using the word "soy" as "racially offensive"

My apologies if anyone was offended. I thought it was a well known fact that soy has tons of estrogen and can affect mens' testosterone levels.

'Soy boy' is absolutely not a racial slur, rather it is a pejorative description applied to the so called beta male and one which has latterly gained ground over 'cuck' as the dismissive term à la mode.

At any rate the effect of soya on oestrogen levels remains disputed, it is its tendency to precipitate a diminishment of male libido which is proven.