I think I am giving up. I bought a pair of the brown Quoddy Trail mocs and really like them. One problem -- the Quoddy size 10.5 wears more like an 11. I have tried smallish tongue pads but they really don't fit. Maybe doubling up on the tongue pads and adding heel pads would help? If not they sadly go to ebay, which is the direction I'm now leaning.