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Saturday evening, my wife asked me to driver her home from a birthday party for her friend's Dad.
I ran there (nearly perfect 5k from the house), so was in no condition to enter the banquet hall. She thought she was going to leave so invited me in to get her, but wound up spending another hour saying her goodbyes. It was just family and a couple guests remaining.
At one point the friend, who is no fashion plate herself but can manage to clean up decently when called upon, was chiding her father for the cuffs on his trousers.
Now, he's the guest of honor, and turned 90, so he pretty much can do as he pleases anyway. But, in my opinion, he looked great. Shined, sleek black bal's; charcoal trousers; white shirt; nice tie; medium-gray houndstooth tweed. The cuff could have been a little oversize, sure, but the break was perfect and he was definitely a) the sharpest I'd seen him (we're not close - probably my fourth time meeting him) and b) the best or second best dressed person still remaining.

What killed me was her brothers agreeing with her.
One was in sloppy black brogues, a shiny black suit, rumpled white shirt, too-long red tie, and his top button was undone and collar skewed wide, with the tie just a little loose. Looked like a car salesman who just didn't want to be there.
Other one could have been okay in heavy tan trousers, blue OBCD, and pink paisley tie. But he didn't button down the button-down collar, and the waistband of his trousers was not fastened at the end, and was sticking out under his belt.

Nobody mentioned either of these gaffes. Just overlooked 'em. But had to harass Dad about his cuffs being a little excessive, simply because he actually looked like a well-put-together gentleman. (The man's only about 5'3", so I'm sure his tailor did the best he could with what he had.)

Okay, rant over.
It sure was easier when I didn't pay attention to how other guys were dressed.

(I can't say anything about my own outfit that night. Saucony Freedoms, Dri-Fit shorts, performance T, race jersey, fleece and LED vests. Hideous. But I was only supposed to provide transportation.)
 

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Thank you for the interesting story. I hope the father cuts his children out of his will. "What?! The Salvation Army's getting his house?! Guess we shoulda kept our mouths shut about the cuffs."

In our culture, we do have a tendency to be patronizing to elderly people. We often act as if their feelings have faded along with their hearing and eyesight. Old folks: children with wrinkles.

(Then again, maybe the dynamics of that particular family involve a lot of good-natured joshing and smart-alecky razzing, with everyone taking it all in stride.)
 

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While you were right not to intervene, it is a shame you didn't have an opportunity to quietly tell the old gent that he looked smashing.
I actually did, kindly, tell his daughter so (she's been friends with my wife since they were in middle school.) He was within earshot, but deep in conversation with old friends who actually seemed to value his opinion.
As for the gentle razzing idea - that certainly goes on, but wasn't what it felt like.

Side note - his memory and hearing are still quite sharp!
I live with my 85yo FIL, who is still active and working and functioning quite admirably for his age. We all got together on New Year's.
Upon being reminded that my wife wasn't home for dinner on account of the "big" birthday party, said FIL insisted that I must be mistaken - this gentleman can only be turning 80! (I didn't take it, but he would have lost that bet.)
 

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Family dynamics are never easy to understand but are always present. Many engage in a never ending low level war of sniping and bickering.

Fun.

Cheers,

BSR
That's true. My oldest friends are the ones I razz the most. If it crosses the line from playful to painful then it's too much. Perhaps the cuffs were a bit too heavy although that doesn't mean they wouldn't make Pitti Uomo:
 

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That's true. My oldest friends are the ones I razz the most. If it crosses the line from playful to painful then it's too much. Perhaps the cuffs were a bit too heavy although that doesn't mean they wouldn't make Pitti Uomo:
I took his comments to mean the man was criticized for his cuffs opening being excessive....though I could me mistaken. Either way, it wasn't clear.
 

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I took his comments to mean the man was criticized for his cuffs opening being excessive....though I could me mistaken. Either way, it wasn't clear.
She felt the foldover was excessively bulky. Like his pants were too long, and he just folded them over. But she seemed to imply that they shouldn't be cuffed at all.
 

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The word hideous is used far to often in these forums. You were dressed to run. That is all.
Yesterday, when I read the first post in this thread, I did see that the OP had characterized his running outfit as "hideous." I somehow managed to maintain my composure.

I construed the OP's use of the adjective as a tongue-in-cheek exaggeration. I figured that he did not seriously consider his running outfit as "hideous" in absolute terms but, rather, absurdly out of place in a banquet hall where a fairly dressy celebration was just winding up.

This is an online discussion forum about clothes. Relax. Don't take it so seriously. To do otherwise would be thoroughly hideous.
 

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Yesterday, when I read the first post in this thread, I did see that the OP had characterized his running outfit as "hideous." I somehow managed to maintain my composure.

I construed the OP's use of the adjective as a tongue-in-cheek exaggeration. I figured that he did not seriously consider his running outfit as "hideous" in absolute terms but, rather, absurdly out of place in a banquet hall where a fairly dressy celebration was just winding up.

This is an online discussion forum about clothes. Relax. Don't take it so seriously. To do otherwise would be thoroughly hideous.
Holy bat-hideous! :eek:

That's a hideous observation upon a hideous topic! Hideously!!!
 

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She felt the foldover was excessively bulky. Like his pants were too long, and he just folded them over. But she seemed to imply that they shouldn't be cuffed at all.
You know, this reminds me of a thread I was thinking of starting a while ago. The subject: Unsolicited negative comments about your appearance. I've been on the receiving end of several of these over the years, from casual acquaintances, friends, and especially girlfriends. My wife asked me the other day why my feet are so wide!

I never understood why people do that to people they supposedly care about. I guess in some cases it's just playful teasing, but I can tell the difference.
 

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You know, this reminds me of a thread I was thinking of starting a while ago. The subject: Unsolicited negative comments about your appearance. I've been on the receiving end of several of these over the years, from casual acquaintances, friends, and especially girlfriends. My wife asked me the other day why my feet are so wide!

I never understood why people do that to people they supposedly care about. I guess in some cases it's just playful teasing, but I can tell the difference.
Fortunately, my wife is more likely to give a misplaced compliment than negative comment. Yes, I know she's a keeper.
The kids 'll do it, mostly for fun. The worst offender is my Mom. She just drops these downers about hair loss, weight, gut protrusion, age, whatever. Stuff that my siblings and I have no more control over than she! She thinks it's constructive criticism or "just an observation", but in reality she's just a negative person and likes to share her poison with those around her. Which isn't me very often anymore...
 

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Respect should be given solely based on this statement, no matter what OP was wearing at that time, hideous or not.
Thank you.

After a 14-ish-year hiatus, and never actually liking it, I took up running just over a year ago because I felt I had maxed out on the benefits of walking around the neighborhood. (Still do that several nights a week - running is a very solitary sport in my household.) I feel good, actually enjoy running now (if it isn't too cold out), am probably stronger than ever, and (for now at least) can keep up with the kids. But I still can't fit into my beloved 25 year old DB suit.
Probably something to do with the Scotch and cookies...
 
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