[Jovan]

Yes, all this is possible via special request. Just let me know what you need

I specifically meant having it on the shirt customising tool for ease of use, but thanks.

 

[PatentLawyerNYC]

Yes, all this is possible via special request. Just let me know what you need

When will MOP buttons be an option? The plastic buttons are holding me back.....

 

[Spats]

shirts and darts

It's a matter of opinion, but we don't think rear-darts belong on men's shirts... Women's shirts are a different story because womens shirts are often cut to fit very close to the body and there is often a desire to maximize the hour glass shape of a women's figure.

Also to maximize the hourglass figure as seen on SF...:devil:

 

[flatline]

When will MOP buttons be an option? The plastic buttons are holding me back.....

I recently received my second Proper Cloth shirt, on which I opted to get the thick MoP buttons (referred to as the Borrelli Buttons). I don't think these options have been integrated to the site yet, but they are available if you want them on your shirt.

There have been some kinks - the shirt arrived with the normal plastic buttons first, but I was provided a shipping label, and received it back with the proper buttons in a week or so with the right buttons. I think once they work the new button options into the normal assembly process there will probably be a simple option on the site.

Despite the issues, the customer service has been quick and outstanding. The thick MoP buttons are maybe 1 hair less beautiful than my Borrelli buttons, but it's very close. I didn't get out a ruler, but they are pretty close to the same size.

Hopefully the folks at Proper Cloth don't mind me sharing the information they sent me. They offer 4 different button types - Normal (plastic), Trocha ($10), Mother of Pearl ($15), and Tall Mother of Pearl ($25).

Standard, Trocha

MoP, Tall MoP

Next I look forward to ordering a shirt with a longer collar, as the 2.5" collar points are a little shorter than I generally prefer.

 

[PatentLawyerNYC]

I recently received my second Proper Cloth shirt, on which I opted to get the thick MoP buttons (referred to as the Borrelli Buttons). I don't think these options have been integrated to the site yet, but they are available if you want them on your shirt.

There have been some kinks - the shirt arrived with the normal plastic buttons first, but I was provided a shipping label, and received it back with the proper buttons in a week or so with the right buttons. I think once they work the new button options into the normal assembly process there will probably be a simple option on the site.

Despite the issues, the customer service has been quick and outstanding. The thick MoP buttons are maybe 1 hair less beautiful than my Borrelli buttons, but it's very close. I didn't get out a ruler, but they are pretty close to the same size.

Hopefully the folks at Proper Cloth don't mind me sharing the information they sent me. They offer 4 different button types - Normal (plastic), Trocha ($10), Mother of Pearl ($15), and Tall Mother of Pearl ($25).

Very helpful....thank you.

 

[flatline]

I was going to complain about the prices, because for some reason I was thinking that their basic fabrics started at $80 before and jumped up to $89 in just a few months. However, I just looked back through old threads and emails and it looks like $90 was always the base price. So I guess the $89 price is actually a slight lowering (although when I ordered my white oxford last month it was only $85).

That being said, 120ish for a shirt made to my measurements with Borrelli-sized buttons, manufactured in the USA, seems like a pretty fair deal to me.

Someone else please order a shirt and post about it so it doesn't look like I'm shilling for these guys?

 

[ProperCloth]

Happy Holidays! We have new stuff to share! (finally)

NEW BUTTONS
The button options are now integrated into the create a shirt tool. This includes the various MoP and shell options Flatline shared above. It was kind of tricky getting this integrated into the shirt preview image, but I think it came out pretty good. The Tall MoP is sourced from Italy (same supplier used by Borelli). They are very substantial. Note that if these are selected, the top button will be a standard thickness MoP button. The standard MoP and Troca shell are also very pretty.

We also included a variety of colored button options. These are plastic buttons so there's no extra charge. I'm excited to see what styles folks come up with that use this new design freedom.

NEW FABRICS
We've been steadily adding more fabrics on the high end the last couple months. We recently added two dark Thomas Mason Tattersalls, as well as four solid color 140s Sea Island Cottons. These are very, very nice. I highly recommend them for the connoisseurs.

COMING UP
Expect more fabrics in the mid-range (80s and 100s two-ply) and more collar options.

Thanks again for your suggestions and please keep the feedback coming!

 

[ShaneSmith]

I have ordered 1 pinpoint blue from you, it is my first order and should be shipping soon. I'll report back how it comes in. I was wondering if you will be having any more Royal oxfords that are not treated with easycare?

 

[AdamsSutherland]

So what exactly would it take to get an unlined, full length/roll, brooks brothers collar on these shirts?

 

[ProperCloth]

@AdamsSutherland - We'll need to make it a special order - just need to sort out the specifics. Please email me to discuss.

@ShaneSmith - We're working on getting more Royal Oxfords - probably mid-late January they will be live.

 

[ProperCloth]

One more thing! We're doing a year end sale: 10% off any order with code "2009".

 

[ShaneSmith]

Shirt came in today, here are my notes on it. Bear in my the only other shirts i have are BB slim fit and Polo classic fit.

Fabric: As soft as Polo classic fit, not quite as soft as BB supima cotton. I ordered the blue pinpoint fabric.
Fit: Very slim fit, i made a mistake on my measurements and will have my first time free alterations done to fix this. In the upper body fits very snug, but i ordered the shirt too short.
Construction: Seems sturdy, time will tell. I have already recieved a compliment on the shirt.

With the alterations this should be a great shirt. I would recommend trying them out.

 

[ShaneSmith]

Alterations done, this shirt is fantastic. I cannot recommend them enough. its strange going back to wearing my BB shirts now that i have these, which fit so well. Everything else feels sloppy now.

 

[flatline]

Glad to see that Proper Cloth continues to listen to its customers and hasn't stopped adding new fabrics or options. Still waiting for longer collar points though!

 

[Leighton]

I like Propercloth better than the overseas MTM shirt guys. The construction just seems better. Can't put my finger on anything concrete in regards to the stitching, but the fused parts are definitely better. No bubbling, looks more consistent.

edit: haven't tried Nialma yet, but am not particularly tempted to drop $400 for their deal.

 

[ShaneSmith]

Flatline, not sure if this helps. I ordered the point collar and it's a substantial collar... Any longer might look odd. FWIW.

 

[flatline]

Flatline, not sure if this helps. I ordered the point collar and it's a substantial collar... Any longer might look odd. FWIW.

Hmmm... I have 2 PC shirts, one with the Point and one in their "English Spread". I prefer the Spread collar, but on both the collar points are something like 2.5". From what I can tell this is a little more "in fashion" right now, but I prefer something more like 3" (yes, .5" can make a substantial difference). I'm actually having trouble because one of my collar stays that came with the shirt has disappeared, and almost all of my other collar stays are too long for the PC shirts.

 

[PJC in NoVa]

I have it from Seph Skerritt that he'll copy any collar you care to send him. So if you want longer points, either send him a shirt with such a collar, or draw an outline of what you want and he'll make it so.

Haven't gotten around to it yet, but I've been planning to send him one of my rounded pinhole collars to copy. I have a long-point pinhole I should have him trace as well.

 

[jjskywlker]

So what are all of your thoughts on the available fabrics? Before I discovered these forums, most all of my shirts were Brooks Brothers non-iron slim fits that I had tailored, which are all going to be replaced over time.

So far, I've gotten the 80's pinpoint in white, and just ordered a 100's light blue broadcloth.

The other fabrics/shirts I'm considering for future purchases include a white or ivory 100's two ply twill Egyptian cotton from Europe, and a pink royal oxford 80's.

 

[Leighton]

So what are all of your thoughts on the available fabrics? Before I discovered these forums, most all of my shirts were Brooks Brothers non-iron slim fits that I had tailored, which are all going to be replaced over time.

So far, I've gotten the 80's pinpoint in white, and just ordered a 100's light blue broadcloth.

The other fabrics/shirts I'm considering for future purchases include a white or ivory 100's two ply twill Egyptian cotton from Europe, and a pink royal oxford 80's.

You get what you pay for. Haven't been able to find a better deal for the quality either. Well, not at regular prices.

That said, Nordstrom MTM shirts might be a better value. Don't know yet, but I've read some threads suggesting this might be the case. Plan to find out more when I visit the mall next.