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OK, these pics might be too dark to see anything so I might need to take more tomorrow and re-post - we'll see.

But anyways, this is a BB MTM Regent I picked up at the store tonight. I think something needs to be done to give the front facade some more shape, and I mentioned as much to the BB store person who told me they couldn't do anything about the chest. So I plan on taking it to a real, local tailor (Fields, for those of you in my area).

The pants may also be a little too long. It looks like too much break.

There also appears to be a little indentation on the outside of the left shoulder, just below where the shoulder pad would sort of extend a wee bit beyond my actual shoulder. Not sure if that is easily fixable.

And, as I suspected, this suit was made in Thailand.

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The shoulder dimple probably means that they didn't account for your arms correctly when taking measurements, either that or they completely screwed up the manufacturing of the suit. If this were my MTM order, I'd demand they refund my money or make me another jacket.

Is that your natural posture? If so, I can see why you might be a difficult fit.
 

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Now, I'm not an expert, but the jacket looks like it has no form in the front, and it looks like your shoulders are not fitting right.

The shoulders look to big.

I'd ask for a refund.
 

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There appears to be too much fabric in the front chest, the shoulders look too wide, and the sleeves don't hang properly. You need to ask them to redo the suit or give you a refund. What they gave you is not acceptable. I can see that the chest is too large, and it will not be possible to re-cut the chest because the breast pocket would be in the way. If you have a tailor that would be able to fix the suit (though it doesn't appear fixable), it would cost a lot of money.
 

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I'm sure "a tailor" will chime in soon, but here are some additional observations:

You have very sloped shoulders, and it looks like one shoulder is lower than the other (one low shoulder is common, I have one) and that combined with what my guess is, fairly muscular upper arms without sleeves made to properly accommodate them is causing the "dimples" you see at the top of each sleeve.

I think your best bet would be to get a refund and look elsewhere for an MTM suit. I would try to go for an MTM program that allows a basted fitting(s) before the garment is completed. (that would allow proper fit in the tough to fit areas of your physique). I believe Mr. Ned in NYC does this, IIRC, at a similar price point as Brooks. No personal experience with Ned, however.
 

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Do you have any pictures of you wearing other suits we could compare the pictures in question to?

Save yourself the hassle of a return and get the suit altered. Only if the suit still looks bad would I inquire about a refund/exchange. I would even consider selling it locally or on eBay or some clothing Web site, and just chalk it up to experience.

I hate to say it, but some people just don't look good in a suit. And, that is why some people choose not to wear one.
 

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If you get the suit altered elsewhere BB is likely not to accept a refund, and obviously this suit does not fit correctly. As said the shoulders are too big, and possibly not cut for your slope, and the pattern looks like it's a bit off considering the way you slouch. I would ask to have the jacket remade or a refund, even if it is a bit of a hastle. With a company as large as brooks brothers who has a reputation to protect, they are likely to be accommodating. This happens once in a while to most tailors, but it's their responsibility to make it right.
 

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Yeah I think I will get an opinion from a local tailor here to see, first of all, if he thinks he can make it look good, and secondly how much he thinks it will cost. If it's either too expensive or just not possible, then I'll take it back. The more I think about it, the less I like it. It's MTM so it should fit better than something off the rack, right?

Here are some other random pics for comparison, as someone asked, but they were taken at odd times in the office by a coworker goofing around with her camera, not with the intent to post here, so they're not the best views.

I do have bad posture, plus I have relatively beefy arms and also a broad back and relatively developed traps (which tends to create sloped shoulders), all which make fitting a suit (and shirts) somewhat difficult.

Hey thanks for the comments by the way. Very helpful to hear what you all think!

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take it back. if you go to a tailor* it will cost you your left lung. you should not have to do that. you already paid for the suit.
you have many of the problems that i also have.
the shoulders need more slope. and the right is even much lower than the left.
the point to point is a bit too wide.
the right hip is heavier [wider] that goes with a right low shoulder.
the chest is too large across the front.
i must say that fit in the upper back and the collar are very good just a little wide at the blades.
check the trousers. i would bet the right hip is heavier and higher than the left.

*not me.
 

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I agree that the suit does NOT fit. The shoulder pads are too broad, and the coat looks like a sack. Ernest Grainger wouldn't let you out the door wearing that on the last day to make his commission for the month.

Before you allow another tailor to do work on it (even pinning or chalking), take it back to Brooks. Have their tailor look at it and see what sort of changes they'd recommend. It would be nice if you could go to another location and get their tailor's opinion not knowing it was special ordered (there seems to be some question about whether it's truly MTM).

If the tailor acknowledges it's hopeless, produce your receipt and have them take it back.
 

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When did Brooks start making in Thailand.
Were you measured for this? did the salesman put a try on garment on you.
It is fixable, but i would suspect it would be cheaper for Brooks to either recut the suit or just give you your money back.
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The saleswoman and the store tailor did have me put on a test jacket, and the tailor took some measurements, but not all that many and it seemed somewhat cursory to me.

Well, for starters I'm generally leery of the store tailors, since I worry they have kind of a conflict of interest in fitting the garment. And when I picked up the suit, of course I got the expected platitudes from the salespeople about how good it looked, and when I asked about fixing the chest piece and arms the store manager just said they couldn't do anything about changing the chest. So I decided to take the jacket to another tailor I trust.

Today that tailor (Sun's Tailoring in Northern Virginia) looked at the jacket and right away saw the problem and a solution. The severe slope of my shoulders (and this jacket by design had very natural shoulders with little padding) was causing the jacket to not hang properly, so he put some pads in and viola, that fixed it and it didn't hang all loose in the front anymore.

I don't think I'll try an in-store MTM (or made to order or whatever) again. If I'm not buying off the rack I'm going to go directly to a dedicated tailor.
 
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