Are there any places online to find information on this topic? I looked at Oxxford's web site and they show two and really give little info as to how they might relate to their other models. I don't even know how many models they have or which ones have been discontinued. I have these names..Gibbons,Mason,Manhatten,Owentsia,Laurent,and Lake Forest and Crest. I would like to know which are the sack models, which have more than 6" drop, which are most natural shoulder and which most structured shoulder.I know if you go MTM you could probably specify exactly what details you wanted. I am interested in the details of the RTW suits and sport coats.