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I understand the impulse of conservatives to cavalierly throw around the term "racist," since so many of us have had it unfairly tossed our way. But really this stuff is worse than silly -- it is malignant. We have no evidence whatsoever that Oprah is a racist, especially in the most precise sense of believing that one race is superior to another or others. At most, perhaps she can be described as a racialist in that she *might* place special emphasis on race or racial considerations in determining policy or interpreting events. If so, that is a pretty understandable practice for any member of a racial minority. I think Oprah is a remarkably talented entertainer and apparently a very kind and decent woman. Her understanding of politics and history is probably very mediocre, and her support for Obamah probably is grounded at least somewhat in her racialist views, but that does not make her a racist or otherwise deserving of contempt.
 

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I think the latest polls on female preference for the candidates debunks this notion that Oprah will influence the vote. As for black women, they will vote for Obama regardless. Less than 2 months ago Obama led McCain among ALL women 52% to 37%. That lead is now only 7 points. Among WHITE women McCain leads by 7 points. About 2 months ago they were closely tied.

(cited poll data from Gallup).
 

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I agree that conservatives appear to be motivated by vengeance more than self-interest when they accuse others of racism. Except when it really exists, it is a horrific charge to make. I would think that the "racism" charge backfires on its maker more than it really moves anyone nowadays, anyway.

On the other side, race-baiters have "cried wolf" with the race card so much that I think only other liberals are really moved (if much) by charges of "racism" any more.
 

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I agree that conservatives appear to be motivated by vengeance more than self-interest when they accuse others of racism. Except when it really exists, it is a horrific charge to make. I would think that the "racism" charge backfires on its maker more than it really moves anyone nowadays, anyway.

On the other side, race-baiters have "cried wolf" with the race card so much that I think only other liberals are really moved (if much) by charges of "racism" any more.
I was a police officer for 16 years, do you know how often I heard suspects utter something along the line of "your only arresting me because I'm {insert color here}."

To which I would reply, your only saying that because I'm white... They typically shut their traps at that point.

I see the use of race as a crutch, you can't stand on your own then do something about it. Don't fall back on some lame excuse and expect everyone to kowtow to you.
 

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Clearly, she doesn't want to showcase Palin on her show. Apparently, she's worried that many of the legion of Oprah fans could be swayed to some degree to Palin (and possibly away from Oprah herself is she (Oprah) is seen to be a bit hostile to Palin).
Didn't Oprah state after she endorsed Obama that she wouldn't have any candidates on her show? It sounds like she's just being consistent.

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Didn't Oprah state after she endorsed Obama that she wouldn't have any candidates on her show? It sounds like she's just being consistent.

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I don't know if she did or not.

I'm not sure that 'consistency' really has any value in this case. You know her audience would love for her to host and chat with the person who has a real chance to be the first female Vice-President of the United States.

But Palin is not her choice, so she won't do it. I think that is the driving factor, here, not consistency. But consistency does sound better.
 

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I'm not sure that 'consistency' really has any value in this case. You know her audience would love for her to host and chat with the person who has a real chance to be the first female Vice-President of the United States.

But Palin is not her choice, so she won't do it. I think that is the driving factor, here, not consistency. But consistency does sound better.
Of course consistency has value here. She's a Democrat who openly campaigns for Obama. Being consistent with that, she can choose not to let anyone running against Obama on her show... like she publicly announced she would. It's her own TV show, she has no public accountability, so she doesn't have to let anyone she doesn't like on the show.

The OP's charge wasn't that she is selectively choosing who gets to be on her show based on her political affiliations (which she is and she is entitled to) but she is somehow racist towards white people. She must also be sexist since she seems to hate having female candidates on her show too.
 

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You are right, her consistency does have value. Not in the virtuous sense, but, in the political sense to the Obama campaign.

Your issue with the racist comment is with the OP, as you state. I believe that race certainly has something to do with her choice of Obama, but that doesn't necessarily mean that she is a racist, in my opinion. Bigoted, maybe, but not racist.

I also disagree with your assertion that she is sexist. She clearly loves women and they love her. Only, in the case of Obama, color trumps gender. In most other cases she (not to mention her audience) would be thrilled to tears to host a female who could be on the thresh-hold of history. Just not in this case.
 

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I believe that race certainly has something to do with her choice of Obama, but that doesn't necessarily mean that she is a racist, in my opinion. Bigoted, maybe, but not racist.
So a black woman supports a black candidate and on that basis, she might be bigoted? By extension can't we say any white person voting for a white candidate might also be bigoted? This vague innuendo seems like a way to attack someone character without actually saying anything, just implying it.

It's pretty obvious the republicans are upset Oprah's not giving them any airtime, and this is a pretty transparent attempt to get back at her for it by accusing her being racist or a bigot.
 

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So a black woman supports a black candidate and on that basis, she might be bigoted? By extension can't we say any white person voting for a white candidate might also be bigoted? This vague innuendo seems like a way to attack someone character without actually saying anything, just implying it.

It's pretty obvious the republicans are upset Oprah's not giving them any airtime, and this is a pretty transparent attempt to get back at her for it by accusing her being racist or a bigot.
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I don't see what all the fuss is about. I don't know if she is a racist. Frankly I don't care. She is an entertainer and in the grand scheme a marginal character. Why should the GOP care if she invites Gov. Palin onto the show. The black women watching are going to be voting for Obama anyway. White women aren't swayed by Oprah's opinion (see my previous post) and men....well any man watching Oprah....I'll leave it at that!

I remember once though she complained about Hermes in Paris not opening the door for her after they had closed, even though she was knocking on the door. She publicly complained later that she felt as though she was experiencing a "racist moment".
 

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Are the Republicans accusing her of being racist or is that just coming from a few jerks on the internet?
I think this is a feature of the Internet age. Any crackpot with a blog can make a comment, and the media hungry to report on anything will broadcast it to the world.

The Palin babygate issue is a perfect example. Most people in this country don't have a clue as to what DailyKos even is, and those that do are probably going to vote Dem anyway.

The media certainly should do a better job of vetting this type of information, and it cuts both ways.

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So a black woman supports a black candidate and on that basis, she might be bigoted? By extension can't we say any white person voting for a white candidate might also be bigoted?
Please don't deliberately try to misstate what I said.

I said I thought race had something to do with it. If it did, then she might be bigoted.

As for white folk, I'd say you have to look at the circumstances for each, but your assumption could certainly, in some cases, be correct.
 
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