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I outgrew my C&Js, so I spent a few hours this weekend visiting every shoe shop on Jermyn St. and beyond. It turns out that, as far as I'm concerned, there might as well be no shoes in London.

C&J doesn't fit me any longer, with or without my orthotic inserts. A 12 or 12.5 is too short and constricting in the toe, but a 13 is so broad that I'm swimming in it. They don't do narrow fittings in any of the relevant lasts, I'm told.

The Edward Green saleswoman was notably unhelpful. The one 13 they had was much too wide, and they apparently don't do any narrow fittings at all in that size. The insert, which might have taken up some of the excess space, was too wide to fit given their tapered sole. No alternatives could be suggested.

Church's are terribly ugly. They really are. But even there, shoes that fit in the toe are loose in the heel or otherwise unwearable.

Trickers was much too wide. They did, however, offer up a bespoke service at £850, which is slightly less terrifying than the rates charged by James Taylor and others. But only slightly.

I haven't tried every Loake or Cheney in the city, but will do in due course. But I'm beginning to despair. I'm just too young and unestablished to think bespoke is a reasonable option.
 

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Assuming that you did not have any luck at Lobb RTW, who usually stock 3 widths, while exploring Jermyn St, I would suggest that you look into J M Weston on the corner of Cork St and Burlington Gdns (formerly the site of the de Grisogono boutique), unless, of course, you prefer English shoes to French shoes. While the newer Perry-designed models come only in 3 widths, the classic models are stocked in 5 widths, cf., www.jmweston.com.
 

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Assuming that you did not have any luck at Lobb RTW, who usually stock 3 widths, while exploring Jermyn St, I would suggest that you look into J M Weston on the corner of Cork St and Burlington Gdns (formerly the site of the de Grisogono boutique), unless, of course, you prefer English shoes to French shoes. While the newer Perry-designed models come only in 3 widths, the classic models are stocked in 5 widths, cf., www.jmweston.com.
To be honest, I didn't try Lobb, although I should at least have had a look. Is JM Weston at a similar price point (starting ca. £600 for Lobb, as I understand it)?

Edit: I spoke with the store, and they do indeed have a range of widths even in the larger sizes. And their prices seem to be in the C&J range rather than Lobb, which is very promising. I will pay them a visit tonight.
 

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Weston prices are slightly lower than JL RTW on most models, in the 500-600 euro range, so I assume in the 400-500 pound range. There are one or two models, like the Chasse (1200 euros), that are above that range but they are exceptions rather than the norm. The French version of the web site displays prices so you can get an idea.
 

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Hello,
If you have a recognised orthopaedic condition which makes bespoke shoes of some sort necessary then you will get a VAT refund on any bespoke shoes that you buy. You just need a letter confirming your condition from a recognised medical practitioner. I know you're not keen on the bespoke approach but thought you might be interested in the potential saving anyhow. Also have you tried the RTW ranges from James Taylor? I understand they carry some specialist footwear as well as carrying out bespoke work.

Hope this helps,

Chris.
 

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Hello,
If you have a recognised orthopaedic condition which makes bespoke shoes of some sort necessary then you will get a VAT refund on any bespoke shoes that you buy. You just need a letter confirming your condition from a recognised medical practitioner.
Is this true? Where/What are the regulations? Would a bunion count? An ingrowing toenail?

Leon

PS: Very few English makers offer a range of widths. Americans are much better at this.
 

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Interesting -- I'm not familiar with him. Does his RTW range have a range of fittings, or are you suggesting his bespoke offering?
Yes the RTW come in 2 different lasts IIRC and on top of that they have the odd 'semi-bespoke' last lying around which is especially narrow. Very expensive though.
Their normal RTW last is narrower than Church's imo.

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Is this true? Where/What are the regulations? Would a bunion count? An ingrowing toenail?
Leon
Yes it is true that VAT does not apply if you have a letter from your doctor to say you require shoes for your orthapedic condition. A bunion is counted as such a condition. I cannot say about an ingrowing toenail.

Of course this is only relevant to UK citizens who have to pay VAT rather than foreign purchasers who can reclaim it anyway.
 

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I thought that it's OK for a merchant to RESPOND to a RELEVANT post - even if it has a little self promotion.
Admittedly, this may be a grey area that is subject to interpretation.
My principal objection is that a response like that belongs in an online marketplace but not in a discussion forum such as this one.

RESPOND: It does not seem to me that the OP's posts in this thread are solicitation for a transaction or proposals for a transaction. Rather, it was a solicitation for information. carreducker's post is clearly a proposal for a transaction. Of course, I defer to the OP and the forum moderators to judge.

RELEVANT: It seems clear to me that the OP is, in the first instance, seeking a solution that 1) is quick rather than waiting perhaps 6 months, and 2) costs approximately the same as Crockett & Jones ready to wear but not much more. The OP therefore appears to be interested in exploring off the peg solutions before resorting to alternative solutions because of the relative urgency and the pricepoint requirments prior to considering other solutions such as MTO or bespoke: how can I get comfortably shod in the short term, given my current pricepoint tolerance? If carreducker can turn around a bespoke order in, say, one week, that is certainly a way to meet the time issue. If carreducker offers bespoke at C&J RTW prices, that certainly meets the cost issue. I have only assumed without confirming that carreducker can meet neither of these requirements. Of course, it is up to the OP to judge the relevance, but I fail to see that there is one unless and until the OP's query is broadened to include bespoke options and significantly higher pricepoints.

It does not appear to me that carreducker was RESPONDING to a RELEVANT post.
 

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You should try ...

Henry Maxwell. Very good shoes.

You can phone them up. They actaully know what width size they do if compared with US sizes.

Ohh, and Jeffry West in the Arcade.

And try on Italian - Gucci - if you are preared to swith to non-English shoes.

Andrey
 
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