You are correct. Solid navy and burgundy are two highly versatile ties for the items you mentioned. Make sure they are not very shiny, so stick to repp (twill) or grenadines. IMO after these two, regimental ties with a navy base (white stripes, or white and yellow), pindot and neats in navy, brown, rust and dark green. Cheers.

 

In my lowly opinion, nothing is as versatile as a solid burgundy grenadine.

 

Awesome, thanks!

 

You are correct. Solid navy and burgundy are two highly versatile ties for the items you mentioned. Make sure they are not very shiny, so stick to repp (twill) or grenadines. IMO after these two, regimental ties with a navy base (white stripes, or white and yellow), pindot and neats in navy, brown, rust and dark green. Cheers.

In my lowly opinion, nothing is as versatile as a solid burgundy grenadine.

Thanks!

 

Solid navy and burgundy are two highly versatile ties for the items you mentioned.

This is an excellent observation. You might not want to wear a solid navy tie with a navy blazer, but what doomx said is generally correct.

Make sure they are not very shiny, so stick to repp (twill) or grenadines.

Right. Definitely stay away from too shiny/satiny, since ties with that characteristic do not go well with the tweed jacket and other casual clothes you mentioned.

Because you are looking for ties that work equally well with tweed sport coats and suits, you should start out with rep stripes. Classic, reliable, highly versatile rep stripes. They go with everything. Accordingly, I recommend you visit the men's necktie section of the Brooks Brothers website and, using the filter, look at just the "striped" ties. Study every striped tie you see so that you can get an idea of what a versatile tie looks like. Let the experience serve as your education.

I want you to pay special attention to the following ties, because they will perfectly serve your needs:

BB #1 rep
Mini BB#1 rep
BB #3 bar stripe
Mixed weave sidewheeler stripe tie
Natte double stripe tie
Argyle and Sutherland

Let me repeat that last one: Argyle and Sutherland. It's timeless and goes with everything. Argyle and Sutherland. No man's tie collection should be without it.

If the prices of the Brooks Brothers ties are beyond your budget, keep in mind that BB has frequent sales. Alternatively, you can look at other web sites for less expensive rep ties. They won't be identical to the ones sold by BB, except perhaps for the Argyle and Sutherland, but you should be able to find ones that are close in spirit to the BB ties.

And as Dr. Livingston stated, a solid burgundy grenadine is also extremely versatile.

 

You are correct. Solid navy and burgundy are two highly versatile ties for the items you mentioned. Make sure they are not very shiny, so stick to repp (twill) or grenadines. IMO after these two, regimental ties with a navy base (white stripes, or white and yellow), pindot and neats in navy, brown, rust and dark green. Cheers.

Great advice.

Just one correction: repp is not twill, it is a ribbed plain weave. Because ties are constructed on the bias (diagonal), the crosswise ribs are diagonal.

 

Charles, thanks so much for taking the time to give such detailed advice.

 

Burgundy and navy solid, hands down.

Burgundy and navy look good on everybody. The weaves I would go with are diamond weave, grenadine, grosgrain, hopsack and satin.

 

I am looking at the Sam Hober grenadine ties. What are your thoughts on Grossa vs Fina? Also the colors red, dark red, and burgundy all look like different colors of burgundy. Similar for soft navy, navy, and midnight blue. I was thinking of the middle ones (dark red, and navy). My navy jacket looks just like midnight blue so I was going to steer away from that. Thoughts?

 

I checked out everything as you suggested. I really like the Argyle and Sutherland and will probably get that along with two grenadines. What are your thought on the BB#4 in burgundy/navy and green/navy? Is the two stripe of the same size pattern too simple? I ask because I like the basic look but didn't see that you mentioned it.

 

I am looking at the Sam Hober grenadine ties. What are your thoughts on Grossa vs Fina? Also the colors red, dark red, and burgundy all look like different colors of burgundy. Similar for soft navy, navy, and midnight blue. I was thinking of the middle ones (dark red, and navy). My navy jacket looks just like midnight blue so I was going to steer away from that. Thoughts?

I greatly prefer Grossa or Prometeo. The fine weaves just don't look as interesting to me. I don't have a 'red' from Hober, but I have a bright red grenadine that is likely the same as Hober's 'red'. The 'dark red' and 'burgundy' could both be described as burgundy. I'd call the darker one maroon. 'Dark red' is my favourite of the reds and goes elegantly with just about anything. The 'midnight blue' is much darker than the other two. 'Soft navy' has a very teal hue to it, and the 'navy' has a bit of the teal hue as well. Their provider of grenadine has yet another navy variation that is still very similar to the 'soft navy' that Hober offers. I just wore my midnight blue grenadine garza grossa tie from Hober yesterday, and it is a fantastic colour. I wore it with a navy blazer that it matches perfectly. It also goes very well with just about anything except lighter shades of blue. The lighter navy variants that Hober offers don't go well with so many things because the navy is too teal-like.

 

Cool. I'll try dark red and midnight. I appreciate the insight. It's hard for me to differentiate from the pictures. Nice to get advice from someone that has the product.

 

I greatly prefer Grossa or Prometeo. The fine weaves just don't look as interesting to me.

SidRon:

I happen to share Matt's opinion, but of course it just depends on how much texture you prefer to show. (If I'm going to get a grenadine, then I want a full-on grenadine.) Just get what you like.

 

I checked out everything as you suggested. I really like the Argyle and Sutherland and will probably get that along with two grenadines. What are your thought on the BB#4 in burgundy/navy and green/navy? Is the two stripe of the same size pattern too simple? I ask because I like the basic look but didn't see that you mentioned it.

I think the green/navy is really boring. The burgundy/navy is OK in my opinion, but just OK.

In my post last night, I listed some of the ties that I think are both versatile and quite attractive rather than merely versatile and inoffensive. I wanted to keep the list short, and the BB #4 ties didn't make the cut.

My opinion only.

 

I definitely see your point. That's why I was asking if they were too plain. I'll give the A&G a go. I'm at the Jacksonville town center tonight so I should be able to swing by tomorrow the BB store and grab one.

 

Correction, it appears my sport coat is herringbone not tweed. Shows how little I know.

 

If you would like a tie with a little pop, a rust colored tie will go with the charcoal, navy and brown. The right rust colored tie does go with the sky blue shirt. It is something a little different.

 

A burgundy, and a Navy Grenadine Grossa ill be versatile enough to pair with most any sports coats or suits you can think of. They are indispensable and boring as H*el, which is why they are so versatile. No conflicts with jacket and shirt patterns and colors. Always a safe bet. Consider some ancient madders in blue, burgundy, and mustard. They go with suits, sports coats, Blazers, tweed, and bring a rich sophisticated look.

 

The dark red tie from Hober's is not that dark. I in fact have the burgundy one in repp on the way.

I also prefer the darker navy colors for a tie. A "darker" navy compared to a mid navy (these terms don't really exist) can ground a more bold sportscoat better. I have the midnight blue fina from Hober on the way as well. I briefly had a prometeo one and I think it sticks out a bit too much for my taste. Also the risk for pulls is higher.

 

I greatly prefer Grossa or Prometeo. The fine weaves just don't look as interesting to me. I don't have a 'red' from Hober, but I have a bright red grenadine that is likely the same as Hober's 'red'. The 'dark red' and 'burgundy' could both be described as burgundy. I'd call the darker one maroon. 'Dark red' is my favourite of the reds and goes elegantly with just about anything. The 'midnight blue' is much darker than the other two. 'Soft navy' has a very teal hue to it, and the 'navy' has a bit of the teal hue as well. Their provider of grenadine has yet another navy variation that is still very similar to the 'soft navy' that Hober offers. I just wore my midnight blue grenadine garza grossa tie from Hober yesterday, and it is a fantastic colour. I wore it with a navy blazer that it matches perfectly. It also goes very well with just about anything except lighter shades of blue. The lighter navy variants that Hober offers don't go well with so many things because the navy is too teal-like.

I disagree with the "midnight" navy tie not going with a light blue shirt. That's one of the best shirt and tie combinations, IMO.

 

The dark red tie from Hober's is not that dark. I in fact have the burgundy one in repp on the way.

I also prefer the darker navy colors for a tie. A "darker" navy compared to a mid navy (these terms don't really exist) can ground a more bold sportscoat better. I have the midnight blue fina from Hober on the way as well. I briefly had a prometeo one and I think it sticks out a bit too much for my taste. Also the risk for pulls is higher.

Which grenadine weave has the best balance of an amount of texture that is just right and an immunity or resistance to pulls?

 

I am looking at the Sam Hober grenadine ties. What are your thoughts on Grossa vs Fina? Also the colors red, dark red, and burgundy all look like different colors of burgundy. Similar for soft navy, navy, and midnight blue. I was thinking of the middle ones (dark red, and navy). My navy jacket looks just like midnight blue so I was going to steer away from that. Thoughts?

Hey, lurker here. I have two Sam Hober grenadines and I strongly recommend paying for some swatch sets. The colors you see on your monitor are going to vary from real life, and you really do want to see the real thing before you buy it. I prefer the grossa weave to the fina, but honestly, IMO it is really a matter of personal taste.

By the way you absolutely want these Sam Hober ties. They are hands down the best ties I've owned. I have a bright yellow and a deep purple, and every time I put them on I feel like a million bucks. David is among the best in terms of customer service as well, and the prices are certainly fair given the quality of the product. Get the swatches. It's well worth the money.

 

Which grenadine weave has the best balance of an amount of texture that is just right and an immunity or resistance to pulls?

They call all get pulls but the finer ones should be less prone of doing so. In terms of balance, this is a matter of personal comfort and taste as well as overall fit. I prefer fina grenadines for the office, but I can also see the appeal of Grossa/prometeo weaves. In my case, I am looking for a tie that is plain with a subtle texture, to wear with somewhat louder shirts and sports coats (guncheck, bolder strips, etc). In this case I don't want the texture of he tie to attract attention. This is why I chose fina weave. I also have a point tip navy knit tie that Has too much pattern for me to wear in the office commonly (I wear it1-2 per year).

 

I disagree with the "midnight" navy tie not going with a light blue shirt. That's one of the best shirt and tie combinations, IMO.

Sorry, I meant suits in lighter shades of navy or marine blue. Those will be a mismatch with the midnight blue tie. It either has to be very close or contrast the other elements of the outfit.

 

Make sure they are not very shiny, so stick to repp (twill) or grenadines.

Wool ties were all the rage a year or two ago. I got some from Drake's and Berg&Berg. Go nicely with tweed.

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