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Morning Dress and Wedding Ties....

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Hello,

Long-time watcher, new poster here. I am going to be married in September, and am currently shopping for wedding ties of different patterns. I'm having very little luck locating many of the traditional styles of wedding ties that are mentioned on here and other forums. Does anyone know of any good stores for acquiring these (either online or brick and mortar)?

Looking for either Black/White or Black/Silver:

- Houndstooth/ Puppytooth/ Dogtooth
- Macclesfield (seems particularly rare)
- Shepherd's Check
- Glen Plaid
- Other suggested patterns.

Also, my bride mentioned that black on white, while looking silver from far away, tends to be rather harsh on the eyes up close. Thoughts on adding a bit of color to the tie? Maybe a bit of lilac?

I will be wearing a white turndown collar pinpoint oxford shirt and dove grey waistcoat with charcoal cutaway. Per my bride, my groomsmen will be dressed similarly (they also have to rent), but I want them to be wearing different patterned ties so we all don't look the same. Any other hints besides what I suggested above

Any thoughts or ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thank you all in advance for the great advice!
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I have had this same frustration. I was going to say that I saw some rather whimsically colored houndstooth ones, but now I can't find them: I can't seem to recall where I saw them. I didn't think they were a particularly good idea regardless.

Jos. A. Bank appears to have the black and white houndstooth, somewhat to my surprise. Wait till the 14th and it'll be half off. Won't be a terribly good tie, but it's a nice pattern.
I happen to be a fan of the above mentioned patterns and often wear them to work. I have had the best luck with Ralph Lauren. Each season he introduces, at the very least, a glen plaid into the Purple Label line. (A bit expensive at $185 and up, but made in Italy and very nice) In the current lineup are a plain black and white (silver) glen plaid seven fold at $255, (On the Polo.com website) and two glen plaids with a subtle over stripe. (One tie has light blue, the other a sort of lavender with some pink in it) You'll probably need to order from a local store that will have to do an inventory search to get the quantity you need. A less expensive option is on the Charles Tyrwhitt website. In the sale section, it is the very last tie. (TS133BLU, it won't come up in a search) It has a blue stripe that is very different than the aforetmentioned, and I don't like it as much, but at $25. it is very reasonable. If I can be of further assistance please let me know. And congratulations.
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Thank you all very much for the help! I will be combing through these sites little by little. If anyone else has any advice please don't hesitate to post!
This may not be much help but for my wedding and everyday I wear Marinella ties which are fantastic, very well made, soft and the knot ou get with them is sublime. They also offer a variety of colours and tints. The shop is in Naples, but the ties are sold round the world and some of the best clothing retailers who do not produce the clothes they sell will stock them. E-bay may also have some. You may be interested in knowing that all the American presidents since JFK have worn them as well as Onassis, Albert of Monaco and many other illustrious people.
I'd look at Carrott and Gibbs as well (www.greatbows.com). They have a lot of silk and make a lot of ties at a reasonable price. They probably will either have the finished ties available or be able to produce them for you in time for a Sept. Wedding. I'd look at the site to see the silk patterns you might like then give them a call.
I'd look at Carrott and Gibbs as well (www.greatbows.com). They have a lot of silk and make a lot of ties at a reasonable price. They probably will either have the finished ties available or be able to produce them for you in time for a Sept. Wedding. I'd look at the site to see the silk patterns you might like then give them a call.
It looks like they only sell bow ties. Do you know if they can make a traditional necktie?
Ben Silver should have them; I got a black/white houndstooth from them, last year.
Polka dot is an all-too-often overlooked classic. From your list, however, I would opt for a good houndstooth. Houndstooth ties seem to be everywhere at the moment so not at all difficult to get hold of.
I do not know about the ties, but I think you should rather wear a shirt with a detachable collar with morning dress. ;)

Best regards, Dr
I do not know about the ties, but I think you should rather wear a shirt with a detachable collar with morning dress. ;)

Best regards, Dr
Agreed. However, in doing research on tunics and stiff collars, the collars in particular require a special cleaning method that almost no one does anymore, in particular the United States. I agree that a stiff collar would stand up more with the suit, but the limitation of available cleaners combined with their reduced functionality makes me want to move towards a turndown collared shirt and a good pair of collar bones. As I won't be wearing morning dress frequently, my thrifty side tells me to buy something that I can use again (where was it when I bought morning dress?!)

Thoughts on this topic everyone? Anyone know of a good cleaner that can do stiff collars in the mid-atlantic USA? Thanks again for all of the help and advice!
Well, from laundries still starching collars I know only Barkers and it is in UK, but I know instructions on how to starch a collar yourself:

Laundry starch is really just rice starch so if you can't find boxed starch, go to the Asian food section of your local grocer and pick up a box there. (I use tapioca starch, to be honest. Gives a nice finish.)

You need 1 tablespoon of starch and 1 cup of water. [Others suggest up to 4 tablespoons of starch based on the size of the collar and desired stiffness.]

Mix the starch with just a little of the water in a shallow bowl until it's smooth; then add the rest of the water.

Take the collar (dry) and dip it into the starch mixture two or three times, rubbing to get the starch grains into the collar. Press out the water between dippings.

Stretch it out evenly on a clean towel and roll it up tightly in the towel. Let it sit (half hour minimum). The drier the collar is when you iron it, the less time it will take.

Unroll everything and stretch the collar a bit (gently) then start ironing. The iron needs to be really hot because you're actually cooking the starch! Start ironing from the inside first. If you have extra fullness of fabric, iron it towards the centre.

Iron the front and back alternately, carefully pressing down the wing tips on the front. You're technically supposed to keep ironing until it's dry. I usually don't have enough time to let it sit for a long time before ironing so I iron it while it's still wet and let it dry completely over night.

Oh, for the impressive finishing touch! You have to curl it. This is just like curling ribbon on Christmas presents: hold one end of the collar; put the iron down as close to your fingers as you can; press down on the iron and pull the collar through. Do this a couple of times and your collar will be beautifully round!

Through Black Tie Guide, found on the Fedora Lounge; hope this helps.

Best regards, Dr
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Another excellent reason for choosing a stroller. *Nods knowingly to self*
On the other hand, starched collar is recommended for a stroller, too. ;)

Best regards, Dr
Styleforum member gshen makes ties. They're great quality and he has a gunmetal with white dot pattern that would be perfect. Here's the thread:

https://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=242269

And +1 for the starched collar shirt. If you still go with an attached collar, go with a broadcloth or twill as opposed to the less dressy pinpoint oxford.
Go for Stanley Lewis men ties, I found it over google and visit their site, they have nice and colorful collectio nof ties
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