[EclecticSr.]

I'm surprised. I've seen him in much better and knows or should know better than to wear a tie knot at that position. This is a look I find pervasive these days. I don't get it.

 

[EclecticSr.]

the reason I don't usually tie a four-in-hand, the d**n things won't stay up!

Love four in hand and double wrap four in hand depending on weight of fabric.
Never had them loosen. If it becomes a problem, a straight pin through the underside of the knot to lock it should solve it.

 

[EclecticSr.]

Thanks!

I don't have an aesthetic preference for the four-in-hand, and most often prefer the more symmetrical half-windsor. I limit the four-in-hand to thick ties which require the smallest knot, which coincidentally are mostly wool, and therefore generally don't exhibit a slippage issue.

Funny, in my youth I would tie the symmetrical Windsor as my preferred knot along with the reverse Windsor( I won't go into detail ) and half Windsor. But now prefer the four in hand and double wrap four in hand and its variations, perhaps because of it's asymmetrical look, I guess Freud would have a psychological term for this behavioral reversal . I prefer loosely puffed squares as well, yet, still arranged as to appear not well thought out but indeed are.