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Fellow trads,

Can anyone verify whether LE Hyde Parks purchased in the past few weeks are coming in at 3.25 or 3.125 inches and roll?

Here is my history of trying to find the answer to this question:

June 2017: LE Customer Service told me LE Hyde Park collars were 3.25/3.125 inches. I bought two and measured them to be 2.75 inches and returned them and followed up with LE Customer Service.

June 2017: This is the reply I received:

" Thank you for contacting Lands' End regarding Order #XXXXXXX.

I am sorry the shirt collars are not 3.25 inches as you prefer. Checking with our specialists all of the shirts are coming in at 2.75 inches, so changing to traditional would not be the answer. "

November 2017: I noticed that the non-iron supima oxfords are measuring at 3 inches per the LE website:

https://www.landsend.com/products/m...point-buttondown-collar/id_242762?sku_0=::WHI

On a whim, I ask them whether they have changed the dimensions on their Hyde Parks as well.

This is the email chain:

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Hello,

I noticed that the collar points on some of your pinpoint shirts are 3 inches when they are traditional fit, according to the size charts on your website.

Are any of the Hyde Park shirts (or Oxford cloth shirts in general) measuring 3 inches or more in collar length, whether they are traditional, tailored, or slim fit?

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Thank you for contacting Lands' End regarding our Men's Hyde Park Dress Shirts.

For our Men's Supima Oxford Hyde Park Dress Shirt in Tailored or Traditional Fit, the collar point is either going to be 3 and 1/4 inches or 3 and 1/8 inches depending on which shirt you are looking at. I apologize, but I am not seeing that we offer Slim Fit in our Oxford Hyde Park Dress Shirts.

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Thank you for the prompt reply. In June, I was told that Hyde Park collar points are 3 1/8 - 3 1/4 inches and i purchased them and found they were only 2 3/4 inches. I had to return them. Could you reconfirm?

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Thank you for contacting Lands' End regarding the length of the collar point on Men's Hyde Park Shirts.

Since you have not given a specific Item Number or size (Regular, Tall, Big & Tall) that you are asking about, I have just used the Regular for my search.

The Men's Tailored Fit Supima Oxford Hyde Park Dress Shirt, Item Number 346456AF2, has a 3.25" collar point.

The Men's Traditional Fit Supima Oxford Hyde Park Dress Shirt, Item Number 039130AF7, has a 3.25" collar point.

The Men's Tailored Fit Supima Oxford Hyde Park Dress Shirt, Item Number 409483AF0, has a 3 1/8" collar point.

The Men's Traditional Fit Supima Oxford Hyde Park Dress Shirt, Item Number 000446AF7, has a 3 1/8" collar point.

This is according to the product specifications that are listed when we look for garment measurements. If you receive them and they are different, we apologize for your disappointment, but I can only guess that there is a fraction of an inch allowance when they are inspected before going out for sale. Anything is returnable, of course.

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Verification from this forum would be appreciated before I try these again!
 

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To be honest, longer collar points on OCBDs are actually a good thing since you can get a better roll. If you look in old photos you'll see the best looking buttown down shirts usually have really long collar points. I think the short collars came about in the 1980s and afterwards never really got much longer, which is a shame.
 

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To be honest, longer collar points on OCBDs are actually a good thing since you can get a better roll. If you look in old photos you'll see the best looking buttown down shirts usually have really long collar points. I think the short collars came about in the 1980s and afterwards never really got much longer, which is a shame.
Yes, that's the whole point of this thread. The OP prefers longer collar points and is sharing information with the Trad Forum -- which, as a whole, also prefers longer collar points -- that indicates LE might be re-lengthening the points on its Hyde Park OCBD collars.
 

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Yes, that's the whole point of this thread. The OP prefers longer collar points and is sharing information with the Trad Forum -- which, as a whole, also prefers longer collar points -- that indicates LE might be re-lengthening the points on its Hyde Park OCBD collars.
Anyone tried the Uniglo ocbd mentioned in a review. Looks pretty decent on their website and only $30. It is wrikle resistant though.
 

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Fellow trads,

Can anyone verify whether LE Hyde Parks purchased in the past few weeks are coming in at 3.25 or 3.125 inches and roll?

Here is my history of trying to find the answer to this question:

June 2017: LE Customer Service told me LE Hyde Park collars were 3.25/3.125 inches. I bought two and measured them to be 2.75 inches and returned them and followed up with LE Customer Service.

June 2017: This is the reply I received:

" Thank you for contacting Lands' End regarding Order #XXXXXXX.

I am sorry the shirt collars are not 3.25 inches as you prefer. Checking with our specialists all of the shirts are coming in at 2.75 inches, so changing to traditional would not be the answer. "

November 2017: I noticed that the non-iron supima oxfords are measuring at 3 inches per the LE website:

https://www.landsend.com/products/m...point-buttondown-collar/id_242762?sku_0=::WHI

On a whim, I ask them whether they have changed the dimensions on their Hyde Parks as well.

This is the email chain:

**************

Hello,

I noticed that the collar points on some of your pinpoint shirts are 3 inches when they are traditional fit, according to the size charts on your website.

Are any of the Hyde Park shirts (or Oxford cloth shirts in general) measuring 3 inches or more in collar length, whether they are traditional, tailored, or slim fit?

**************

Thank you for contacting Lands' End regarding our Men's Hyde Park Dress Shirts.

For our Men's Supima Oxford Hyde Park Dress Shirt in Tailored or Traditional Fit, the collar point is either going to be 3 and 1/4 inches or 3 and 1/8 inches depending on which shirt you are looking at. I apologize, but I am not seeing that we offer Slim Fit in our Oxford Hyde Park Dress Shirts.

**************

Thank you for the prompt reply. In June, I was told that Hyde Park collar points are 3 1/8 - 3 1/4 inches and i purchased them and found they were only 2 3/4 inches. I had to return them. Could you reconfirm?

**************

Thank you for contacting Lands' End regarding the length of the collar point on Men's Hyde Park Shirts.

Since you have not given a specific Item Number or size (Regular, Tall, Big & Tall) that you are asking about, I have just used the Regular for my search.

The Men's Tailored Fit Supima Oxford Hyde Park Dress Shirt, Item Number 346456AF2, has a 3.25" collar point.

The Men's Traditional Fit Supima Oxford Hyde Park Dress Shirt, Item Number 039130AF7, has a 3.25" collar point.

The Men's Tailored Fit Supima Oxford Hyde Park Dress Shirt, Item Number 409483AF0, has a 3 1/8" collar point.

The Men's Traditional Fit Supima Oxford Hyde Park Dress Shirt, Item Number 000446AF7, has a 3 1/8" collar point.

This is according to the product specifications that are listed when we look for garment measurements. If you receive them and they are different, we apologize for your disappointment, but I can only guess that there is a fraction of an inch allowance when they are inspected before going out for sale. Anything is returnable, of course.

*************

Verification from this forum would be appreciated before I try these again!
I ordered (2) LEI Hyde Park Traditional Fit shirts in 17.5/36 as part of last week's 50% off everything plus free shipping promotion. I received the shirts yesterday and returned them to my local Sears that same day. The collar on one was 2 7/8" and on the other 3". As others have noted, the fabric is thinner than in past years. I also found the buttons holes oddly over-sized: one gentle tug and all the buttons immediately came unfastened. Even at $27.50 a shirt, these were no bargain, IMO.
 
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