[questioner]

I am recently interested in lapelless jackets, aside from the Nehru Jacket and Mao suit, my interest is mainly in the Jackets that keep the V shape effect by the cut of the Jacket.
I "ask Andy" :smile: for an article about that.
but I would like, forumers, know your opinion on this, what do you think about it, is it stylish, gorgeous, etc?
Bellow i site web pages that illustrate what i am talking about.

These are vintage:

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?62567-Men-s-New-Evening-Jan.-16-1939
https://www.rustyzipper.com/shop.cfm?viewpartnum=160384-MM7688

and these could be considered contemporary:

https://haikalciumlowfat.blogspot.com/2010/06/salvatore-ferragamo-spring-2011.html
https://www.swide.com/luxury-magazi...ar-catalogue-photos-knitted-blazers/2012/5/12
https://www.oki-ni.com/invt/gpu1015blk

https://supertalk.superfuture.com/i...ga-ysl-julius-rick-linea-obscur-inaisce-nn-sm

https://www.dandyofthegrotesque.com/diary/2012/05/03/one-more-time

these are proposed as formal:

https://www.ceroth.com/tuxedos.nxg#0_TG7230 (Raffinati Tuxedo)

The following three, at first glance seems to have lapels, but watching carefully they are seams!

https://www.dicembre32.com/lib/module/picview/view1.php?uid=283
https://thefashionisto.com/portrait-colt-maldonado-by-alex-alvarez

 

[Starch]

Another alternative is suit jackets with no collar at all.

The Beatles wore them, though I think only for about 10 minutes. In any event, they're photographed in them on the back of Meet the Beatles, and the cover copy refers to them:

"They wear 'pudding basin' haircuts that date back to ancient England, and suits with collarless jackets which they've made the newest rage."

The second half of the sentence may be about as off-base as the first half. In any event, the "rage" was short-lived at best.

 

[Oldsarge]

I think I have seen such garments proposed for years as the Suit of the Future but I keep living in the present and never see them in stores, on the street, on anyone I know. Possibly it is a climatic thing. A coat buttoned to the throat over a shirt would be overly warm for SoCal. Besides, it has a SF-y look about it. It might be practical further north but it certainly doesn't appeal to me. Perhaps on a younger man . . . ?

 

[questioner]

I think Starch, you are refering to this:

https://beatlesuits.com/Beatlesuits_Collarless.htm

 

[Orsini]

Surf bands of the period had these. They looked like an open front jacket with the lapels removed.

 

[arkirshner]

I have no qualification to give an opinion about clothing worn South of the Rio Grande, East of the Atlantic, or West of the Pacific. Up here such jackets are neither stylish nor gorgeous, just eccentric. The article from a 1939 Life issue attributes a collarless jacket to "Mrs. Bunny Wall...stylisty of men's clothes for R. H. Macy & Co." Other than the model, not one of the hundreds of men pictured in the issue is wearing one. It seems Mrs. Wall's design did not catch on.

 

[Earl of Ormonde]

I fail to see the appeal or the point of mens jackets without lapels or collars. Quite common in Europe on women's jackets but not men's.

 

[eagle2250]

^^
+1. Such designs look as incomplete today, as they did back in the day when making their original appearance! By-gawd, what does one turn up when the winds become overly brisk?

 

[questioner]

without taking a position on the matter, Earl of Ormonde, someone like Bernard Rudofsky would say the contrary: what is the point of lapels anyway?

 

[TheGreatTwizz]

I wore one in high school. It was very fashion forward, and left my wardrobe hastily upon graduation and my first real job (although I did interview in it.....)

 

[Oldsarge]

without taking a position on the matter, Earl of Ormonde, someone likeBernard Rudofsky would say the contrary: what is the point of lapels anyway?

That kind of argument, reduced to its most absurd, would ask why wear anything but a blanket when it's cold or anything at all when it's hot? Such questions come when people don't think things through.

 

[arkirshner]

without taking a position on the matter, Earl of Ormonde, someone like Bernard Rudofsky would say the contrary: what is the point of lapels anyway?

No doubt he would. Clothing for the most part is nine tenths driven by tradition. We wear pants, Romans wore togas. Rudofsky was conserned with design, not tradition. The point of lapels is to continue a tradition, to link the past with the present. Most men, even the ones who think they are not, are, to a certain extent, traditionalists. Of course, men are free not to be traditionalists and wear or not wear lapels as they see fit.

 

[Rolex Luthor]

but I would like, forumers, know your opinion on this, what do you think about it, is it stylish, gorgeous, etc?

You will look like Dr. Evil.

 

[questioner]

You will look like Dr. Evil.

LOL!!!

 

[questioner]

That kind of argument, reduced to its most absurd, would ask why wear anything but a blanket when it's cold or anything at all when it's hot? Such questions come when people don't think things through.

You have a point.

but premonitory?

https://www.betabrand.com/more/vagisoft-blanket.html

 

[questioner]

I wore one in high school. It was very fashion forward, and left my wardrobe hastily upon graduation and my first real job (although I did interview in it.....)

the first time I saw that kind of jacket (v shape) was precisely as part of a school uniform, it totally surprise me, so that motivated me to investigate the topic, it was a couple of month ago, so recently. Also, in my country, it is not uncommon to find nehru jacket as part of school uniforms.

 

[WouldaShoulda]

Another excuse to post a link to an Old Krass Bros. ad...

Lapel-less AND double breasted.

Take THAT!!

 

[rwaldron]

I can't help but think the wearer has on a cardigan.

 

[questioner]

That kind of argument, reduced to its most absurd, would ask why wear anything but a blanket when it's cold or anything at all when it's hot? Such questions come when people don't think things through.

Thinking more carefully, Rudofsky would defend the funtionality of the clothes on any other consideration. Wearing just a blanket in cold enviroments wouldn't be practical because you need to wrap as a pupa to be cold, that wouldn't allow mobility, impossible to work o run for your life. Most functional clothes seem to be those that follow the human shape.

 

[questioner]

Cary Grant. He starts with top and bottom unbuttoned, pay attention when he buttons them.