[magogian]

Hello all,

I've been trying to find a rather inexpensive MTM sport coat option for a while. Well, today, I stumbled across Jack Victor at a Chicago men's store (Morris and Sons). Is anyone familiar with Jack Victor for MTM (or from what I understand it is more of a CMT process)?

Using Jack Victor, I can get a sport coat with a decent fabric for $500-600. The only issue is that my sales guy wasn't too sure how much flexibility there is with Jack Victor. For example, I always need much larger arm holes and sleeves than comes on a normal 46-48 jacket. My sales guy wasn't sure whether Jack Victor can do that, but he is checking for me. Does anyone know?

I do understand that Jack Victor jackets are largely fused. But, I don't really care becase all I'm looking for is a relatively low priced option for sport coats. And, the sport coats don't have to be perfect as long as they fit decently.

Any thoughts?

 

[jsgoode]

Jack Victor MTM is a pretty good deal in my opinion. I sell it and also wear their MTM product. As a retailer I can pass on a little insider info to you. Their order form clearly states:
"Jack Victor Limited appreciates your co-operation in submitting orders that contain ONLY the following alterations:
1. Jackect Waist
2. Sleve Length
3. Jacket Length
4. Posture (Erect or Stooped 3/8")
5. Shoulders (High or low 3/8")
6. Collar (Raise or Lower 3/8")
7. Pant Waist
8. Pant Rise
9. Seat of pant"

I hope this helps. If you are looking for a little more detail fitwise, Samuelsohn is a good one in terms of flexibility...only problem is that it is more expensive!

 

[dfloyd]

I think $500-$600 for a Jack Victor sport coat is overpriced....

Saks used to carry them, and you could get an OTR for around $300. The thing I noticed about Jack Victor is that they do a lousy job of pattern matching. I think you would be better off with BB MTM Golden Fleece.

 

[nolan50410]

You might want to check out Mark Shale and their MTM program, which last time I was in the store was through Coppley. Coppley is very similar to Jack Victor, but JV is a mostly OTR brand while Coppley is almost entirely MTM. I imagine Coppley will give you several more measurement options over the Jack Victor.

 

[The Louche]

Something from English American or John Daniel. Should be able to get full ist of options and canvassed construction for not much more money. I don't know where you'd look in Chicago, however. Oxxford may actually be able to point you towards an English American operation as they are both owned by IAG...

 

[brokencycle]

What about Coppley? I've never used them, but I've seen some solid looking results, because here in Madison we have a place who does made to measure Coppley.

 

[omanae]

In Chicago the custom store I work at can get you a blazer custom made for the $500-$600 range, it won't be a full canvas however for that price. Feel free to stop by Jackson and Dearborn to look at Andrea Vangna for our options, or you may also consider HSM, I know they do MTM and might have some options for you.

 

[magogian]

Good information everyone. Thank you. I called up Mark Shale, and yah Coppley seems like a decent option. Sport Coats start around $900, and they can change things like armhole size, which is a requirement for me.

Of course, at $900 I can probably also do BB's 1818 MTM program for a sport coat.


Omanae,
I may check out Andrea Vanga. That price point sounds good to me. Can things like armhole size be changed? The fact that it isn't fully canvassd doesn't matter to me for my sport coats. I just want a relatively cheap option for sport coats that fit decently (but no need to be perfect or the epitome of quality).

 

[The Louche]

What about Coppley? I've never used them, but I've seen some solid looking results, because here in Madison we have a place who does made to measure Coppley.

In Chicago the custom store I work at can get you a blazer custom made for the $500-$600 range, it won't be a full canvas however for that price. Feel free to stop by Jackson and Dearborn to look at Andrea Vangna for our options, or you may also consider HSM, I know they do MTM and might have some options for you.

The reason I suggested John H. Daniel (sp?) and English American is b/c they should both be less than $900, even when fully canvassed (Coppley is not fully canvassed). Full canvassing certainly isn't the be-all-end-all in determining the overall quality of a jacket, but it means a good bit. I can see where full canvas would be of particular benefit in the case of a hearty sized jacket b/c it will move with the wear-er's body much better and will be more durable. Plus, I think $900 is too much for a fused garment, even MTM. There's more out there if you take the time to look...

 

[brokencycle]

I guess I didn't realize a Coppley jacket is so much. I was quoted on a suit for about ~$1000. So I assumed the jacket along would be ~$600-700.

 

[Tim Correll]

Hello all,

I've been trying to find a rather inexpensive MTM sport coat option for a while. Well, today, I stumbled across Jack Victor at a Chicago men's store (Morris and Sons). Is anyone familiar with Jack Victor for MTM (or from what I understand it is more of a CMT process)?

Using Jack Victor, I can get a sport coat with a decent fabric for $500-600. The only issue is that my sales guy wasn't too sure how much flexibility there is with Jack Victor. For example, I always need much larger arm holes and sleeves than comes on a normal 46-48 jacket. My sales guy wasn't sure whether Jack Victor can do that, but he is checking for me. Does anyone know?

I do understand that Jack Victor jackets are largely fused. But, I don't really care becase all I'm looking for is a relatively low priced option for sport coats. And, the sport coats don't have to be perfect as long as they fit decently.

Any thoughts?

Other than Oxxford (and possibly Samuelsohn and H. Freeman), I didn't know that clothing brands gave customers a cut, make, trim option (where you provide your own fabric that you obtained from wherever) for made to measure like the tailors give their customers for made to measure, semi bespoke and full bespoke.

As I often say, it is like the old saying goes, you learn something new everyday.

 

[magogian]

Other than Oxxford (and possibly Samuelsohn and H. Freeman), I didn't know that clothing brands gave customers a cut, make, trim option (where you provide your own fabric that you obtained from wherever) for made to measure like the tailors give their customers for made to measure, semi bespoke and full bespoke.

As I often say, it is like the old saying goes, you learn something new everyday.

Oops, I misspoke. What I meant to convey is that they have limited options (for example, you can't change the armhole size).

 

[The Louche]

Oops, I misspoke. What I meant to convey is that they have limited options (for example, you can't change the armhole size).

It may have been mentioned earlier, but what your describing isn't made-to-measure. It's "made-to-order."