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Infinitely better than the shockingly unfunny Seinfeld+Gates advertisements.

Still, an enormous company advertising how awesome they are comes off a bit gauche. I think a simple advertisement showing somebody doing something cool in Vista would be much more effective.
 

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^ I think it's well done and long overdue. I assume the Mac commercials have been effective but they're impossibly snarky. I think it's the right approach for Microsoft to confront them directly but avoid the same tone of smarmy self satisfaction.

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In an interview a few years back, some computer mag asked Mr. Gates if he had seen the commercials and, if so, what he thought of them. It is said that Mr. Gates' mood then suddenly changed from calm and collected, to aggressive and defensive. If I may paraphrase, he said, "No! I'm too busy to watch TV. Those are such stupid commercials!" Needless to say, those commercials really did, I think, get to Mr. Gates, and I reckon he even took them personal.
 

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I like it a lot better than the Mac ads. The Mac ads are really offputting.

If PCs were really so terrible, they would not dominate the marketplace no matter what Bill Gates did.

I'm sure the Macs are good computers and probably better at some things. I just really don't like the ads, plus, when hiring, etc. a lot more people know the basics about using the PC and Windows.
 

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If PCs were really so terrible, they would not dominate the marketplace no matter what Bill Gates did.
Now I don't know about that. We have two Macs and a PC. I prefer Mac. I have been a PC user ever since the Internet got popular, say, ten or so years ago. However, three years ago, I was a bit skeptic about using a Mac, but did so anyway. I liked it. The simplicity is great. Would you believe I've never had a Mac freeze on me, or suddenly reset, or do the "blue screen of doom," not even once? That's because Apple literally makes the whole computer, software and all. Most PCs are slapped together by all sorts of shady, generic electronic companies. It's a simple issue of quality, the Mac, v.s. quantity, the PC.
 

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I used a Mac for about a year and a half back in the mid '90s when I was part of a marketing group. It was fine. At the same time my home computer was a PC. Neither one impressed me as being better than the other (of course, then there was a much greater availability of various software for the PC).

From my recollection of that Mac experience, my PC of today is basically just as , reliable, stable, and easy to use (for my purposes - nothing really heavy duty). I'm typing this message from a 6 year old Gateway laptop that needs more memory, but have no real problems with it. Same goes for my 4 year old HP (business type) computer that I use at home.

Around the turn of the century I put together my own PC. It worked just fine, also (until the lack of adequate cooling eventually smoked the motherboard).

Maybe the Mac of today would really impress me, I don't know, but I'm not disappointed with my PCs in any way. ( I admit, I don't much care for some of the quirks of Vista when it came out, but all of my own PCs have the XP OS.
 

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I guess the techs at work keep the worst of Windows from happening. I'll admit that the Windows 95 and Windows 98 were not dependable, at least with accounting software. However, now, it's pretty dependable; I don't experience the crashes very often any more.

(Although lately, there have been a couple "Sequel" errors. I just restart and do something else. Right now, I don't know if there is much Accounting Software that would run on a Mac, although I do admit I have never checked. The computer techs give me a PC and I run my accounting department on it.)
 

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^ I think it's well done and long overdue. I assume the Mac commercials have been effective but they're impossibly snarky. I think it's the right approach for Microsoft to confront them directly but avoid the same tone of smarmy self satisfaction.

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I always like to see the new Mac commercails, because i get to see what that funny PC is up to this time. It is easy to hate that smug Mac, and reminds me that if I was forced to I'd much rather have a beer with Gates than Jobs.
 

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.....Would you believe I've never had a Mac freeze on me, or suddenly reset, or do the "blue screen of doom," not even once? That's because Apple literally makes the whole computer, software and all.
Errrr, no.

Tell me what model mac you have and I could probably get a list of a few component makers that are in there....
 

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Well, I think Microsoft is doing what it needs to do to be competitive in a market where Apple is gaining marketshare. As far as the commercials are concerned, I don't think Microsoft has the creative power that Apple has, so the Microsoft commercials wind up coming off as "snippy". I do think those Apple commercials did have a certain "confrontational" element to them, but, it was a highly successful ad campaign. What's interesting about the 2 campaigns is the Apple ads focus on "lifestyle/personality type" and the Microsoft ads focus on "this is what I do for a living". Which really defines what Microsoft is, in my opinion - an operating system that is mostly (not always) effective in aiding a workplace scenario, and usually the decision to use Microsoft's operating system is someone else's decision.

In my workplace (I work in IT), most of the guys I work with have a PC that they remote desktop into, from a Mac, and only when they need to. I use a Mac at work, and I use a Mac at home. The reason I do is simply because the quality of the computer itself is higher on a Mac, and the operating system (built on Unix) is solid as a rock.
 

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You guys are forgetting Windows ME. Need I say more? Mac OSX is perfectly stable, and has been since OS 9, which was also stable. Neither my G5 nor my G4 have ever been in the shop for anything! I install my own hard drives video cards and software, and virtually every periferal is plug and play.
As far as the "there is so much more software for the PC" I'd have to agree, but just how many free games does one need? I have all the software I need to get my work done and more.
And, finally, I have NEVER, I repeat, NEVER had a virus. I just checked a couple of days ago, and I'm virus free.
I'll admit that my wife, who uses a 24" IMac has three Word files that she got from an ad agency that do have a virus, but those are the only ones I've ever heard of.

Just my opinion, and I realize I'm in the minority!:cool:

Mark S.
 

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If I may say so, the only frustrating thing about Macs is the lack of extensive compatibility with the PC software. Some of you might say the amount of compatibility is adequate; I disagree. Others might say, who needs compatibility with a PC's software anyway? I do. I thought it was interesting how someone's IT buddies could access their PCs with their Macs. It sounds difficult though.
 

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From the point of view of advertising, Microsoft's ad agency or advisers have sold them them a classic blunder. They've let Apple define the terms of the ad and by responding to them on their own turf just keep the Mac in people's minds. "Poor Microsoft, they don't even have the brains to create their own original ads. They have to copy ideas from Apple."

Whatever anyone thinks of the Mac ads -- snarky, snappy, cute or annoying -- it's proof they work that so many PC users talk about them. Up goes Apple's market share, slowly but surely. And that is the whole point.
 
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