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I think my dress shirts fit, however they always come untucked and blosue out at the sides...

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#1 ·
i buy charles tyrwhitt extra slim fit. they seem to fit great most everywhere.

only issue is the shirts are long and the come untucked from my pants and then blouse out around the sides.

thoughts?
 
#3 ·
What's the rise on the trousers you've been wearing? What is your height? And perhaps a photo of you wearing one of the shirts and a typical pair of trousers would help us isolate the cause of the problem. Actually, two photos: one with the shirt tucked in, one with it untucked.
 
#4 ·
Shirt tail length, rise of trousers, even just the shirt size and the "fit"--all of these are factors. I prefer shirts with a good length to them, plenty of shirttail to tuck in. And pants with a bit of a rise, a medium at minimum. If you get these things right, you shouldn't have to resort to tricks like tucking your undershirt into your boxers or using garters, etc.

I have found that shirts with less material, such as so-called slim or trim fits, do tend to come undone more easily than shirts in regular or traditional, i.e., "full", cuts.
 
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I have found that shirts with less material, such as so-called slim or trim fits, do tend to come undone more easily than shirts in regular or traditional, i.e., "full", cuts.
Yes, there is less slack to be given when the excess fabric is lessened. The other issue is that the slimmer the shirt, the more noticeable the muffin-topping is when it occurs.
 
#7 ·
i buy charles tyrwhitt extra slim fit. they seem to fit great most everywhere.

only issue is the shirts are long and the come untucked from my pants and then blouse out around the sides.

thoughts?
OK, struggling proved useless -

1. Have you tried sewing them to your skin?

2. Why haven't you tried the extra, extra, extra slim fit?

3. Add elastic straps to the hem, and try strapping them to your heels.

4. So?

 

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#12 ·
Obviously your shirt is going to pull out a bit, and produce some billow. But if it is pulling out significantly then I am inclined to think your shirts don't fit. In BB oxfords for instance I wear the Madison cut and have no issues, but if I wear a slimmer cut, whatever they call it now I wind up pulling my shirt out of my pants by a much more significant amount.
 
#13 ·
Obviously your shirt is going to pull out a bit, and produce some billow. But if it is pulling out significantly then I am inclined to think your shirts don't fit. In BB oxfords for instance I wear the Madison cut and have no issues, but if I wear a slimmer cut, whatever they call it now I wind up pulling my shirt out of my pants by a much more significant amount.
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#16 ·
OK, struggling proved useless -

1. Have you tried sewing them to your skin?

3. Add elastic straps to the hem, and try strapping them to your heels.
I saw some sort of garter belt-like contraption to hold your shirt in. Not terribly comfortable looking, and far too complicated to operate. I wonder if the silicone material used for strapless bras would work here. Just a thin strip along the bottom edge.

I know, it sounds nuts, but I'm sure people looked at the first tie and thought "That can't be comfortable" as well.
 
#17 ·
That shirt doesn't look particularly slim. But that aside, unless you start wearing shirts made of Lycra or using shirt stays you going to have some 'muffin top' as mentioned above.

Your pants don't look like they fit particularly well though. It looks like you are wearing pants with too short a rise for where you like the waist to sit.
 
#18 · (Edited)
Ah, a picture is worth a thousand words.

Seriously this time, the chief culprit are the pants. You need a much higher rise, and they could be a little looser around the leg and hips and possibly the waist. Shirt is too snug through your shoulders, you're not a skinny guy, and a more traditional cut like Brooks' Madison cut would suit you far better.

What's happening is any time you move your arms and upper torso, there's no slack, so your shirt will pull out more than it otherwise would, and because there's a lot of space to your belt line the shirt begins to become untucked.

All shirts will blouse a bit more as you move around, the fit issues I've mentioned just make it far more significant. If you insist on wearing your pants that low, you could look for a shirt cut as a long, which should have a longer shirt body. Might help with the untucking, but won't do anything for the blousing as I've explained.
 
#19 · (Edited)
Ah, a picture is worth a thousand words.

Seriously this time, the chief culprit are the pants. You need a much higher rise, and they could be a little looser around the leg and hips and possibly the waist. Shirt is too snug through your shoulders, you're not a skinny guy, and a more traditional cut like Brooks' Madison cut would suit you far better.

What's happening is any time you move your arms and upper torso, there's no slack, so your shirt will pull out more than it otherwise would, and because there's a lot of space to your belt line the shirt begins to become untucked.

All shirts will blouse a bit more as you move around, the fit issues I've mentioned just make it far more significant. If you insist on wearing your pants that low, you could look for a shirt cut as a long, which should have a longer shirt body. Might help with the untucking, but won't do anything for the blousing as I've explained.
Update:
Went to CT store and tried on a 16/35. Fit better imo.

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#20 ·
Update:
Went to CT store and tried on a 16/35. Fit better imo.

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Yup, you've got too much meat in the arms and shoulders, and your pants are too tight and have inadequate rise. IMO you've exceeded the parameters for most shirt cuts. Simplest thing is to buy shirts in a larger size, and if you want the waist smaller, have them tapered. It never used to be difficult to get done or too expensive. The alternatives are MTM or bespoke.

But you'll still need looser pants with a higher rise.

You've worked to get in shape, but contrary to what you see in magazines, the best way to show it off is not to wear clothes that just barely fit. Looser clothing that fits looks better, which makes you look better, which you'll find is true based on interest from the objects of your affection!
 
#21 ·
This may also be contrary to what female acquaintances tell you, but you don't want slim fit. That shirt looks positively uncomfortable around your shoulders. The armholes on CT's slim fit are extremely high.
 
#22 ·
Yup, you've got too much meat in the arms and shoulders, and your pants are too tight and have inadequate rise. IMO you've exceeded the parameters for most shirt cuts. Simplest thing is to buy shirts in a larger size, and if you want the waist smaller, have them tapered. It never used to be difficult to get done or too expensive. The alternatives are MTM or bespoke.

But you'll still need looser pants with a higher rise.

You've worked to get in shape, but contrary to what you see in magazines, the best way to show it off is not to wear clothes that just barely fit. Looser clothing that fits looks better, which makes you look better, which you'll find is true based on interest from the objects of your affection!
+1......and so well and nicely said, Sir.
 
#23 ·
Well said, Flanderian. I'm curious, though, how a traditional-fit shirt, e.g., a Brooks oxford, would look, maybe sized up half an inch in the neck size. I bet it would work. Many of these modern fashion shirts are just cut too slim, even for men without a lot of meat in the arms and shoulders.
 
#24 ·
Well said, Flanderian. I'm curious, though, how a traditional-fit shirt, e.g., a Brooks oxford, would look, maybe sized up half an inch in the neck size. I bet it would work. Many of these modern fashion shirts are just cut too slim, even for men without a lot of meat in the arms and shoulders.
Thanks. That's not a bad idea, but my only concern is that the OP's waist to chest/shoulders/arms ratio is too great for that to work. I.e., he's got a pretty small waist but is much bigger up top. I think the result would be even more loose cloth around the waist, and he's looking to minimize that.
 
#25 · (Edited)
Your two sets of pics are like night and day, as in you looked a bit chubby in the first and built/athletic in the second. My body type is similar to yours in the second set of pics, I am also a 16/35, and I wear BB slim fit. I could stand to take in the waist a bit on the BB slim fits (as I'm sure you would need to) but they fit great in the shoulders and arms for me. I tried BB's extra slim fit in a size up and the waist was perfect, but the shoulders and chest were much too tight - looked bad and was uncomfortable like in your second set of pics. I recommend trying slim in CT or BB (as opposed to extra slim) for more room in the shoulders/chest and then take in the waist a bit for a nearly bespoke fit without the bespoke price.