I guess I should clarify. I'm trying to avoid some like the Gucci GG logo or the Versace logo plastered all over the tie. To me, this just seems like I would be trying to show I have money or trying too hard to look that way. I was thinking something maybe similar to the Burberry ties that have the Nova Check pattern - a person would have to know the pattern is Burberry's signature (I'm guessing more women would recognize it than men). However, even these Burberry ties are a little too gaudy.

Starch hit it on the head with the Hermes comment. In addition to those types of ties, I'm also looking for ties that are so well made that they are worth the extra money. If I can buy a solid blue tie for $300 or $60 and the only difference is the name on the back, then I see no reason to buy the more expensive one. At least when you buy a tie with a logo plastered all over it, you are paying for that.

The Burberry plaid pretty much exemplifies what you think you're trying to avoid.

 

The Burberry plaid pretty much exemplifies what you think you're trying to avoid.

Hmmmm. Kinda sounds like maybe yes, maybe no. I think OP's main aversion is to the logos in particular. I think he pretty much wants ties that everyone knows are expensive ties, but without logos.

He's fine with everyone knowing it's a Burberry tie... up until Burberry puts a logo on it. Hamburglar?

 

Hmmmm. Kinda sounds like maybe yes, maybe no. I think OP's main aversion is to the logos in particular. I think he pretty much wants ties that everyone knows are expensive ties, but without logos.

He's fine with everyone knowing it's a Burberry tie... up until Burberry puts a logo on it. Hamburglar?

Kinda. My intention of wearing an expensive tie is not for people to think I'm rich. I want something that is recognizable like Burberry but high quality like Charvet and Brioni.

I guess I was hoping there were certain patterns that were specific to high-end brands. Everyone wears striped ties, I was just hoping there was something less commonly worn and would distinguish myself.

 

Hmmmm. Kinda sounds like maybe yes, maybe no. I think OP's main aversion is to the logos in particular. I think he pretty much wants ties that everyone knows are expensive ties, but without logos.

He's fine with everyone knowing it's a Burberry tie... up until Burberry puts a logo on it. Hamburglar?

But the Burberry plaid is a logo, that's my point.

 

Hermes has that distinctive H design which screams logo. Brooks Brothers, John Varvatos, Charvet, Sam Hober ties all seem to fit the Op's needs.

 

These threads amuse me. :tongue2:

Probably because he owns those ties... ALL of them.

 

But the Burberry plaid is a logo, that's my point.

In essence it is. I agree.

 

Kinda. My intention of wearing an expensive tie is not for people to think I'm rich. I want something that is recognizable like Burberry but high quality like Charvet and Brioni.

I guess I was hoping there were certain patterns that were specific to high-end brands. Everyone wears striped ties, I was just hoping there was something less commonly worn and would distinguish myself.

Well Hermes ties often have a look that any men's clothing aficiando pretty much recognizes. I think Ricci, Zegna, Charvet and Brioni just look like well made expensive ties, and many people would recognize them for that. There is nothing about them that I know of that is identifiable though. Charvet has long been my favorite. I have several from long before they reached the crazy high prices of today.

 

Kinda. My intention of wearing an expensive tie is not for people to think I'm rich. I want something that is recognizable like Burberry but high quality like Charvet and Brioni.

I guess I was hoping there were certain patterns that were specific to high-end brands. Everyone wears striped ties, I was just hoping there was something less commonly worn and would distinguish myself.

If you don't need people to think you are buying expensive ties, why not just buy a quality tie in a conventional pattern? I'm sure you can still find ways to distinguish yourself while wearing a striped tie.

 

If you don't need people to think you are buying expensive ties, why not just buy a quality tie in a conventional pattern? I'm sure you can still find ways to distinguish yourself while wearing a striped tie.

I think he DOES want to wear expensive ties. He just wants expensive ties that everyone knows are expensive ties based o a design element common to that brand of tie, not due to a prominent logo on the tie face. Other than the Burberry example cited, or maybe Hermes, I don't know of a common design thread running through other tie makers offerings.

 

Many Thom Browne for brooks brothers black fleece ties have signature red white and blue stripes.

 

Well Hermes ties often have a look that any men's clothing aficiando pretty much recognizes.

because almost everyone who wears an Hermes tie manages to tie it so that one can see the Hermes logo.

I'm going to bring up my favourite (again) - Lanvin. Lovely silk, very good weight, lots of beautiful Art Deco patterns. And they have a shade of blue that any aficionado will recognise. BTW as they don't have the same "brandedness" as say Charvet or Hermes, you can occasionally buy them on Ebay NWT for $10 to $20 - I think the lowest I paid for NWT was $5!

 

yes I love them

 

grenadine ties I mean

 

For grenadine, Hober or Paul Winston (grenadineties.com).
Or you can get a "grenafaux" from Tie Bar for $15.

 

Kinda. My intention of wearing an expensive tie is not for people to think I'm rich. I want something that is recognizable like Burberry but high quality like Charvet and Brioni.

I guess I was hoping there were certain patterns that were specific to high-end brands. Everyone wears striped ties, I was just hoping there was something less commonly worn and would distinguish myself.

It's really confusing to understand your motivation. You want a brand name tie that is easily recognizable.

But you don't want to show a logo.

Is your goal for people to look at you and say "oh he's wearing a brand name tie!" or is your goal to look at you and say "oh there's a man who knows how to dress well-ly!"

I would strongly suggest you start considering grenadine ties, from wool or silk. They are not common amoungst the average population, they scream class through simplicity and quality, rather than class through expensive designer gimmicks, and are infinitely more versatile than patterned ties.

They will provide distinction without flashing a logo.

 

I went for Hermes ties because they are understated and the letter H is the initial of my first name. I also think Ferragamo and Drakes have nice tie designs yet understated.

 

Some food for thought (or maybe just a snack). I have a light blue Burberry tie with the typical Burberry pattern. Although I think it's nice, I hardly ever wear it because I think it screams "Burberry". I don't remember anyone ever commenting on it, and I have to wonder if it's because the are thinking "ugh...Burberry". I have some other nice Burberry ties that are not obviously the brand and have received many compliments. I have also received a lot of complements on extremely cheap items I've worn, and these were even from someone who dressed in expensive clothing, who made a lot of money and certainly understands designer clothes.

In my opinion if you are going to wear something nice, it should be intrinsically nice, not because of the cache of the brand. I don't see the difference between an actual logo and a pattern that identifies the brand, except for the fact that you may be sending the message out only to those who are part of the club who are "in the know".

Just my opinion. We are all free to dress how we choose and for our own reasons.

 

I own a few Burberry & Gucci ties, i have not experimented with other brands, but these are the ones i own

Gucci: (Unless you recognize the colors of Gucci, you wouldn't know it): https://www.gucci.com/us/styles/3199324B0022366#

Burberry: ( Same as Gucci): https://us.burberry.com/store/mens-accessories/ties/london/prod-37723161-check-silk-tie/

I own several others from Gucci, but they have the Interlocking G on them, so i did not include them.

 

What real nice neckties have a designer logo? If I were shopping for really great ties, I'd pick up Drake's and Marinella.

 

Kinda. My intention of wearing an expensive tie is not for people to think I'm rich. I want something that is recognizable like Burberry but high quality like Charvet and Brioni.

I guess I was hoping there were certain patterns that were specific to high-end brands. Everyone wears striped ties, I was just hoping there was something less commonly worn and would distinguish myself.

So you do want something that communicates that you're rich, but subtly. Isn't being a social-climber in the internet age fun? You can disguise the fact that you lack the breeding and tact to be upper class by getting other people to point out to you the subtle clues of sophistication.

I don't really mean to be harsh; I'm eliding a more complex conversation because I don't really have time for it. You want to buy a really good tie: that's a good thing to do, and commendable. You will get more respect out of people for wearing well-picked ties than for wearing ties made by someone in particular. I reiterate, though, that if I had money to burn on them, I'd buy Drake's and E. Marinella. The latter especially are almost universally perfect.