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I have a OTP dinner suit from Chester Barrie*, single button, no vents, peaked grosgrain lapels. Can you recommend a waistcoat, preferably in the UK to go with it please.


* I really wanted to have a dinner suit made this year but unfortuantely finances will not permit it.
 

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I've checked Ede & ravenscroft. The white Marcella is very nice but I am concerned it is not "correct". If this is the case I might get it in the future as an alternative.

The black waistcoat online is indeed for morning suit not dinner suit as it has too many buttons.
 

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I was under the impression a white waistcoat was, strictly speaking, for white tie, not black tie. Is this correct?

For the record I wear a turndown collar not a wing.
IMO, for a white waistcoat to look proper with black tie, it needs a white tie shirt with a stiff wing collar. It's a more formal way to wear black tie. When wearing a soft black tie shirt with a turndown collar, a black waistcoat would be more appropriate. Oliver Brown sells one online: .
 

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IMO, for a white waistcoat to look proper with black tie, it needs a white tie shirt with a stiff wing collar. It's a more formal way to wear black tie. When wearing a soft black tie shirt with a turndown collar, a black waistcoat would be more appropriate.
My understanding also (I apologies for failing to mention the turndown collar earlier).

Oliver Brown sells one online: .


Excellent that is exactly the sort of thing I am looking for. Now in these straightened times can anyone find something similar for a little less? Circa £100.
 

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It is backless though, they have a black formal waistcoat online for £125; they should have white formal waistcoats (not backless) in store.
Backless white waistcoats are the norm. You'd be hard pressed to find one with a back. E&R do not stock them.
From reading various other threads on this forum I've found that it is relatively common in America to pair a white full dress waistcoat with Black Tie, but this has been extremely uncommon in this country since WWII. I've certainly never seen it done. I think it's best to visit a tailor such as E&R and discuss semi-formal waistcoats with them. They should be able to give you advice as to which style would best suit you. I will in fact be doing something similar myself next week. Good luck.
 

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Would the barathea look right against the grosgrain, though? I think BB's is quite classy looking (though it could use a full back), but I was under the impression the silk facings should be the same type to look consistent.
 

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Never take off your jacket, and nobody will notice you're wearing a backless waistcoat.
Doesn't matter. Backless makes it feel like I'm wearing a rental, like a pre-tied bow tie.
 

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