double post.

 

I have seen some cloths at Mercer & Sons web site that I think might be of interest to you. Everything is American made. I discovered them in the New Yorker many years ago - they run an ad a few times a year. I do not have any - yet.

 

I have a Vineyard Vines OCBD that is much heavier fabric than any of my BBs, new or old. I love the feel of it. They only seem to come S, M, L etc, but not a problem here, at least.

 

LL Bean's OCBD's are reasonably priced and seem fairly heavyweight to me. I bought two of the trim fit ones recently and they're much roomier than a BB slim fit, but still reasonable on me. They are "wrinkle-free", but they don't seem to have any noticeable coating on the fabric, unlike the Land's End OCBD I bought which is shiny, and not nearly as heavyweight.

I've had the same experience as you have with thin "oxford cloth" shirts. Some of these I realized after the fact are pinpoint oxford, not oxford cloth. This page talks about the differences:

https://propercloth.com/dress-shirt-fabrics

 

The all cotton need to be ironed BB OCBD are thick and close behind are J.Press OCBD. Skip the PRL.

 

The all cotton need to be ironed BB OCBD are thick and close behind are J.Press OCBD. Skip the PRL.

Agreed on the BB. Just be sure which one you're getting, as BB stocks several different models labeled OBCD. You're looking for the Classic All-Cotton Traditional Fit Original Polo® Button-Down Oxford Dress Shirt, Made in the USA and located here -

https://www.brooksbrothers.com/IWCa..._Id=500031&Parent_Id=662&default_color=BLUE&sort_by=&sectioncolor=&sectionsize=

NOT the Classic All-Cotton Traditional Fit Original Polo® Button-Down Dress Shirt, made in Asia and located here -

https://www.brooksbrothers.com/IWCa..._Id=786852&Parent_Id=662&default_color=BLUE&sort_by=&sectioncolor=&sectionsize=

 

Gitman Bros., F.A. MacCleur, LE Hyde Park. All heavy weight, beefy, thick quality ocbds. Limited colors. Gitman Bros. Heavy Oxford (Cambridge cloth) comes in white, blue, pink and blue uni stripe....F.A. MacCleur in blue and white...LE Hyde Park in blue, white and occasional stripes. Hyde Park is most economical and was their iconic shirt for years coming in many colors, stripes and patterns--but cut back in recent times. BB OCBD of course has been mentioned and has the largest selection--for now. Mercer I have no experience with.

 

Brooks Brothers. Period. End of sentence.

 

Brooks Brothers. Period. End of sentence.

With the additional benefit that if you buy the traditional fit, you can use it as a spinnaker as well.

 

In the Lands' End shirts, you want the one called HYDE PARK oxford. They are thick like canvas.

 

With the additional benefit that if you buy the traditional fit, you can use it as a spinnaker as well.

Or you can enjoy a non-binding classic fit that works well for a range of men. You may not care for the fit, but be kind enough to not diss those of us who do.

 

With the additional benefit that if you buy the traditional fit, you can use it as a spinnaker as well.

This is the reason I've never bought the BB OCBD. It's not so much that the BB regular fit is huge on me, but that the slim fit fits so well in comparison.

 

Agreed on the BB. Just be sure which one you're getting, as BB stocks several different models labeled OBCD. You're looking for the Classic All-Cotton Traditional Fit Original Polo® Button-Down Oxford Dress Shirt, Made in the USA and located here -

https://www.brooksbrothers.com/IWCa..._Id=500031&Parent_Id=662&default_color=BLUE&sort_by=&sectioncolor=&sectionsize=

NOT the Classic All-Cotton Traditional Fit Original Polo® Button-Down Dress Shirt, made in Asia and located here -

https://www.brooksbrothers.com/IWCa..._Id=786852&Parent_Id=662&default_color=BLUE&sort_by=&sectioncolor=&sectionsize=

Newcomer here, first post.I have some of the asian made and some made in usa. Does anyone know why the american made shirts do not have a sleeve button?

 

The Lands End Hyde Park can also be custom made:

 

Or you can enjoy a non-binding classic fit that works well for a range of men. You may not care for the fit, but be kind enough to not diss those of us who do.

My apologies for any offence, but I was thinking of how the traditional fit billows at the back - not the front.

 

Well played, sir.

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Newcomer here, first post.I have some of the asian made and some made in usa. Does anyone know why the american made shirts do not have a sleeve button?

At one time that was the norm for U.S. made shirts. I would assume Brooks decided to keep them as they always had been for the sake of those who feel it is traditional.

 

Thanks for the reply Flanderjan. Do you know if the material in the 346 is the same as the 1818? (I'm talking about the oxford cloth button down must-iron?)

 

Thanks for the reply Flanderjan. Do you know if the material in the 346 is the same as the 1818? (I'm talking about the oxford cloth button down must-iron?)

Sorry, I do not. But it would surprise me if it was. I doubt they'd bother to sell a shirt for less that they can be sell for more. Most/all of the 346 merchandise is produced only for their outlet stores and is not the same quality as their main line.

 

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I have found BB's 346 series shirts to be more prone to shrinkage (collars and sleeve length) during the laundering process, than do their "main line shirts. Otherwise, the shirts look and feel quite similar(?).

 

At one time that was the norm for U.S. made shirts. I would assume Brooks decided to keep them as they always had been for the sake of those who feel it is traditional.

Probably, but I always assumed it was because they're a pain in the butt. Aren't the plackets, or gauntlets, or whatever you call 'em, shorter on the BB than on other shirts, thus making the extra button unnecessary?

 

With the additional benefit that if you buy the traditional fit, you can use it as a spinnaker as well.

Or...

Just the way I like them!!

 

The Gitman OCBD is the beefiest I have found. I have 6 colors: white, blue, blue stripe, pink (all stock colors), yellow and pink stripe (both were a made to order type deal). I get mine from Landry's in Oxford, MS. They are pricey ($105 or so) but you won't find a better shirt. I like that the fit is somewhere between the BB slim and regular fits.

 

Probably, but I always assumed it was because they're a pain in the butt. Aren't the plackets, or gauntlets, or whatever you call 'em, shorter on the BB than on other shirts, thus making the extra button unnecessary?

The BB sleve gauntlet may possibly be shorter, but 25 or so years ago when a gauntlet button became the norm, BB didn't change its configuration, even though it doesn't add much to the complexity of manufacture. While I enjoy and wear BB's OCBD, I wish it had a gauntlet button as I prefer to flip my cuffs when wearing a shirt around the house, and BB cuffs must be rolled or they keep falling down. It also looks neater when buttoned, IMHO.

 

Got my LE order in today. The hyde park shirt came in. Initial impressions are favorable. I recommend it, especially with their return policy.