[Markus]

length of gitman collar points

Gitmans have longer collar points than Brooks OCBDs, and this makes for a longer, curvier roll. You can get away with wearing a slightly wider tie with these, 3-1/2" width vs. 3-1/4".

To my way of thinking, Gitman makes an OCBD that equals the Brooks OCBD while remaining completely different from it.

Unfortunately, this hasn't always been true, though long, long ago it was true. A nice, long (say 3.5" length)

it would be great if they'd gone back to the longer style.