firm shoulders as opposed to just thick padding

This is probably old hat to some of you but it may persuade others to go for bespoke suit. Structured shoulders does not mean thick padding.

I have noted previous posts on soft v structured jackets( or coats) and I want to make the point about good bespoke as opposed to cheap mtm.

I have fet and tried or worn jackets by Dege and Gieves and Hawkes bespoke. The latter was the most structured coat I have experienced and I have also experienced a 'soft tailored' coat. The curious thing is that the structured ones did not have thick shoulder padding. The material was stiffer but not much thicker. This was suprisingly true of Dege and I bet that Huntsman is the same.

I once ordered a cheap mtm from Hong Kong- not the good ones mentioned on this forum, I hasten to add. This had a shoulder that was thickly padded but of a foam like material that might have stuffed a cushion. The result was that there was a gap between the shoulder tip of the jacket and my own shoulder tip. The thickness hides one's own shoulder shape. This a Savile row garment will not do. Something of your shoulder line will be apparent. Try it for yourselves. I often inspect second hand coats.