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Tucker -- I notice the "ogee" quality of your ideal collar roll. Two S-shapes in mirror image of each other. Hadn't thought of it that way before.

Why is a collar roll desirable? I think a good roll enhances the look of the OCBD, brings it out. Since your collar is buttoned down, creating a new space and shape -- it might as well be a robust one.

As a shadow adds depth and interest to a shape in a drawing, or as a plentiful mass of foliage adds something to a flower -- so a robust, full roll makes an OCBD more handsome, to some of us anyway.
 

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^ Hmm. Maybe we could use more pix: Poor rolls. Great rolls.

I would love to see some examples of less-than-desireable collar rolls.

Most the pix in this thread either lack a tie -- or are taken from a very low angle, emphasizing the hole in the roll.
 
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