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Other than job interviews (I'm a software developer), weddings, and funerals, I rarely have a need for dress shoes, but I do need to have at least one pair around for those occasional needs. I also have hard to fit feet (longish, somewhat narrow, and narrow heals), which has always limited my options. When I was in my teens, E.T. Wright was still making shoes locally in Massachusetts and I was able to get dress shoes from them with one width for the overall shoe and an extra narrow heel. Now in my 50's, my feet seem to have widened a bit, so the E.T. Wright shoes that used to fit me really well are now too narrow, but I still need the narrow heels to prevent slipping.

A number of years ago I purchased 2 pairs of Alden 854's in size 13 AA/B, which I believe to be built on the Barrie last, from Sierra Trading Post (before they were purchased by TJX) for a super price. These fit me really well, but aren't quite as dressy as I would like (especially since they aren't black). I wore them to a funeral with my dark blue / pinstripe suite a few years ago because they were my only option that I could comfortably wear, but I wasn't exactly thrilled with the combo. I also purchased a couple of pairs of Allen Edmonds dress shoes (styles 3408 and 9954, both in size 13B) from Sierra at the same time, but those are now too tight/narrow in the toe box area, especially for my right foot (one of the joints on one of my toes is "stuck" pointing up, so is uncomfortable in shoes with tigher toe boxes).

I recently purchased a used pair of Alden 67's, in very good condition, in the same size as the 854's (13 AA/B) on ebay. The seller claimed these are built on the Alden Trubalance last, which is supposed to be even roomier than the Barrie last, but they're fairly tight in the toe box compared to my 854's. Searching on Google, it sounds like they are actually made on the "TruFlare", which isn't on the Alden last chart that The Shoe Mart has on their site, but from what I can find it should be similar to the Barrie and Trubalance lasts, so it should be fairly roomy in the toe box. Since there is no return option on these, I'm considering asking a local cobbler to stretch them for me (we have had him do other work for us in the past and have been happy with his work). I have seen some favorable comments on here and elsewhere in regards to stretching shoes (for width, not length). If stretching the 67's works, I may try the same with the 2 pairs of Allen Edmunds shoes. If that all works, then I'm probably all set.

If stretching the shoes doesn't work, I'm wondering what my best option might be in finding something that will fit well. Most shoe stores I have checked in my area (a bit west of Boston, just outside of Rt. 128) over the years don't seem to carry much for larger sizes and narrow feet, so mail order seems to be my best option.

The Shoe Mart carries Alden style 9909, which is made on the Barrie last, which seems like it would be a good option for me. It definitely isn't a super formal shoe, but I'm inclined to think that for my needs, that's not super important and buying something that fits well is the top priority so my feet aren't in pain after wearing them all day. Unfortunately, they don't have my size in stock. Given that getting something that fits well is important, are 9909's formal enough for my stated needs?

What would you guys suggest for options that would both fit me well (the #1 priority) and be formal enough for my needs? Given that I don't need dress shoes very often, I don't feel compelled to spend Alden money, but I do want to get something well made AND fits well.
 

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I would never waste my time buying good shoes without going to a knowledgeable brick-and-mortar retailer and getting properly fitted. This is especially true with Aldens. You may want to consider Alden's Modified last, but it is only available at a limited number of retailers (Moulded Shoe in NYC is a great source). Continuing your current online purchasing path will only lead to more frustration.
 

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I would never waste my time buying good shoes without going to a knowledgeable brick-and-mortar retailer and getting properly fitted. This is especially true with Aldens. You may want to consider Alden's Modified last, but it is only available at a limited number of retailers (Moulded Shoe in NYC is a great source). Continuing your current online purchasing path will only lead to more frustration.
I get the advantage of going to a knowledgeable retailer, but I'm not going to take a trip to NYC to find shoes that I'll only wear once in a while as I just can't justify that expense. If someone knows of a really good store in (roughly) the Lowell, MA area, please share, but my experience in the past with the reasonably local shoe stores has been less than satisfactory both in terms of actually trying to find something that fits properly AND in having inventory in my size. I have run into a lot of cases where they've done things like try to convince me to go with a shorter / wider shoe because that's what they have in stock.
 

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I get the advantage of going to a knowledgeable retailer, but I'm not going to take a trip to NYC to find shoes that I'll only wear once in a while as I just can't justify that expense. If someone knows of a really good store in (roughly) the Lowell, MA area, please share, but my experience in the past with the reasonably local shoe stores has been less than satisfactory both in terms of actually trying to find something that fits properly AND in having inventory in my size. I have run into a lot of cases where they've done things like try to convince me to go with a shorter / wider shoe because that's what they have in stock.
If you're in Lowell, Boston is just forty minutes away. There must be plenty of shoe shops there. Smmrfld is right - visit a few shops in person and stop guessing blindly for your difficult-to-fit feet.
 

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Shoes can be dyed another color if desired.
Thanks for the suggestion as that's an option I hadn't considered. I could take one of the pairs of 854's and get them dyed. I obviously know they fit well and they're just dressy enough for my needs.

If you're in Lowell, Boston is just forty minutes away. There must be plenty of shoe shops there. Smmrfld is right - visit a few shops in person and stop guessing blindly for your difficult-to-fit feet.
I live fairly close to Lowell (I was just using that as a reference point that might be familiar to people), so yes, Boston is relatively close and one would reasonably assume there are plenty of shoe shops there. Yet, I called around a while back (pre-pandemic) and couldn't find a single store, including the Allen Edmonds dealer, who stocked anything in my size OR was willing to order something with the understanding that if they didn't fit I wasn't going to buy them. Did I try every shoe shop in Boston? No, but I tried a bunch. So if someone has a specific recommendation of a good shop that's within a reasonable distance, I would truly appreciate the recommendation.

As far as my online purchasing path goes, the 4 pairs I had purchased from Sierra Trading Post years ago all fit fine at the time I purchased them (I could have returned them for the cost of return shipping if they didn't fit). The 2 pairs of Aldens still fit very well - most likely because the toe box area is roomier than the Allen Edmonds shoes. I have a hunch that getting the Allen Edmonds pairs stretched just a bit may do the trick and the same for the Alden 67's. So my best course of action may be to start with having 1 pair stretched, if the local cobbler feels that it's worth trying, and go from there.
 
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