[NYMutt]

Turned up jeans are perfectly fine. As for "patina," true aficionados of "raw denim" may not wash their jeans for months (or years!) in order to promote specific desired fading patterns, i.e. an "acquired change to a surface through age or exposure."

 

[Jovan]

not a fan of the cuffed jean look. one too many pics of hipsters with their Indy boots and cuffed jeans that turned me off I guess

Since when are hipsters into Indy boots?

 

[fishNchips]

Since when are hipsters into Indy boots?

I like cuffed jeans (although not for myself) and I like Indy boots... but I'll freely admit it sort of has become a hipster "look" when paired together, like so:

But it can obviously still be a classic look as well.

 

[triklops55]

Rolled up jeans can look cool if you're wearing motorcycle boots and a leather jacket. As for cuffed jeans? Uh, yeah, no.

 

[Shaver]

.......I realize that most members on this site scoff at the thought of "high end jeans," but the people who wear these care about the construction, materials, ethical sourcing, and other qualities that AAAC members also consider to be important in their own buying decisions. A lot of these guys really have no interest in "skinny" or "trendy" jeans and clothes. Obviously this style doesn't really jive with AAAC, but it's really not the worst thing to happen to the clothing industry.

Edit- I don't have any faded high end selvedge, just an informed observer.

High end jeans? High end jeans!?!?

Why do we not have an emoticon for scoffing? I for one would get a tremendous amount of usage from such an item. In the interim this will have to do:

 

[Haffman]

Unlike many on the forum I like jeans very much. I also own quite a few of the decried 'high end' selvedge jeans.

I see cuffed jeans as an affected look and dislike it for this reason. Also at my age (nearly 40) it would look ridiculous.

I also dislike the trend of rolling selvedge denim, especially to show off the selvedge. In a similar way I disliked the trend of undoing a suit cuff button to show off the working cuffs. With selvedge as with working cuffs (a)showing off isn't elegant (b)there are cheap variants which do the same thing so there is no valid 'snob appeal' anyway! :icon_smile:

 

[The Irishman]

Ha ha... I have a degree of sympathy with Shaver and others who take issue with the notion of 'high end' jeans when you consider the issue in light of the other thread currently running about jeans worn with untucked shirts, and people who consider this dressy in today's terms.

Yes, there are a lot of people who wear jeans badly and inappropriately, and attempt to shoe-horn them into totally inappropriate situations. Fair enough. Maybe if you're a Hollywood a-lister you can turn up in a pair of distressed jeans on the red carpet and get away with it, but for the most part the rest of us are better observing classic rules in any situation other than the most casual.

That said, jeans have their place. Come on - boots, jeans, leather jacket. Of course there's a time and a place for this - especially nowadays.

And if you accept that, then it isn't so hard to then make the jump to wanting to consider the jeans you wear as much as you consider other casual items of clothing. If you invested in a well-made leather jacket, belt, boots etc. why let the side down by throwing on a cheap pair of jeans made a in sweatshop somewhere?

For me, I think the 'trend' (I think that's the appropriate word) towards high-end denim has gone a bit far, but there is a middle ground. I like companies like Hiut or even Nudie that are making selvedge denim and organic denim made available at fairly mid-range prices (and in the case of Hiut they're made in Cardigan, Wales). Considering that a pair or two of jeans are all you need, if you invest just a little you end up with a product that's going to stand up to a few years wear and is made ethically.

The whole 'raw denim ages to show the wear of your individual lifestyle' thing kind of baffles me. If I scrape the hell out of my shoes accidentally on a kerb then I want to cover or repair that scuffing. I expect things to get broken in, but the fetishisation (sp?) of raw denim wear can go a bit far for me. I've seen 3+ year old jeans held up as being 'amazing looking' and to me they just look like they should be relegated to being worn when you're painting the house or whatever. The other side of it is that, in my opinion, they all look the same anyway. Can you tell one pair of distressed jeans from another? I think once you hit a certain age even when wearing jeans you should keep 'em dark and avoid the distressed look (as someone once said, distressed clothes distress me).

Now, if you are a jeans-wearer and you're under 30 and they're part of your daily wardrobe, I can see why you might go one step further than 100-200 on jeans and invest in something like a pair of Ironheart. Their 25oz jeans are so heavy that they practically stand up by themselves. If you ride bikes and wear leather jackets and whatnot, why not - knock yourself out. Just don't turn up in a nice restaurant for dinner wearing it...

 

[kravi]

I like jeans. I am one of the few who will even wear them casually with a sports coat. At the same time, I get my jeans hemmed, so I don't have to roll them. I have short legs and a long chest, so even 30" inseam jeans are too long But for a few dollars, my tailor can hem them for me.

--Me

 

[Bjorn]

I find myself in opposition with Shaver in this. I wouldn't buy anything but high end jeans

I currently own no jeans, come to think of it. Had a pair that gave up during the summer.

 

[Shaver]

I find myself in opposition with Shaver in this. I wouldn't buy anything but high end jeans

I currently own no jeans, come to think of it. Had a pair that gave up during the summer.

Don't make me post another pic of burning jeans. I'll do it, I swear to God, I'll do it if I'm pushed.......:icon_smile_wink:

 

[Semper Jeep]

My 90-year-old neighbor is quite stylish in his cuffed dungarees. They look great with the double pleats and elastic waistband too.

 

[Youthful Repp-robate]

I wore jeans with turn-ups today. I also wore a tattersall shirt and a British Warm.

 

[third_eye]

Turned up jeans are perfectly fine. As for "patina," true aficionados of "raw denim" may not wash their jeans for months (or years!) in order to promote specific desired fading patterns, i.e. an "acquired change to a surface through age or exposure."

Yes. Over on styleforum there are extensive dedicated threads to the proper process of breaking in raw selvedge denim. I believe its recommended to not wash them for 6 months or so. Yikes.

 

[third_eye]

My 90-year-old neighbor is quite stylish in his cuffed dungarees. They look great with the double pleats and elastic waistband too.

Lol, that's a visual.

 

[NYMutt]

Yes. Over on styleforum there are extensive dedicated threads to the proper process of breaking in raw selvedge denim. I believe its recommended to not wash them for 6 months or so. Yikes.

Yikes, indeed. I bought a pair of 501 button-flys recently. When I arrived at the cash register, I said to the salesman, "I understand that I am supposed to wear these for a little while before I wash them." "More than a little while, I'd say." "How long?" I asked. "Well," he said, "I've got some raw jeans that are 5 years old." "Do you wear them?" "Sure, I wear them all the time." "Well, don't they get a little, uh, disgusting?" "No. Once a month I put them in the freezer for 24 hours. That kills all the bacteria." Never heard of such a thing? I went home to relieve my daughter's babysitter, a twenty-something. While she was putting on her coat, I told her of my conversation with the Levi's salesman. "Oh, yeah," she says, "my friend does that. Her jeans look great." At this point my 'tween daughter yelled out, "Yuck! Daddy, promise that you'll wash your jeans!"

 

[Pentheos]

Ethical sourcing of denim? First-world problems.

 

[desastre]

turn-ups look great with boots. Cuffed jeans don't look good to me at all.

 

[filfoster]

I find myself in opposition with Shaver in this. I wouldn't buy anything but high end jeans

I currently own no jeans, come to think of it. Had a pair that gave up during the summer.

Now this is price, right? Not anything in regard to the inseam...

 

[medhat]

Yikes, indeed. I bought a pair of 501 button-flys recently. When I arrived at the cash register, I said to the salesman, "I understand that I am supposed to wear these for a little while before I wash them." "More than a little while, I'd say." "How long?" I asked. "Well," he said, "I've got some raw jeans that are 5 years old." "Do you wear them?" "Sure, I wear them all the time." "Well, don't they get a little, uh, disgusting?" "No. Once a month I put them in the freezer for 24 hours. That kills all the bacteria." Never heard of such a thing? I went home to relieve my daughter's babysitter, a twenty-something. While she was putting on her coat, I told her of my conversation with the Levi's salesman. "Oh, yeah," she says, "my friend does that. Her jeans look great." At this point my 'tween daughter yelled out, "Yuck! Daddy, promise that you'll wash your jeans!"

"Don't bother me with facts" - not my quote, but a great one I requote often. The tale of freezing jeans to kill all the bacteria has actually been studied (Google it). The jeans still stink. And now they're cold.

 

[Shaver]

I wore moleskins today. I also wore a tattersall shirt and a British Warm.

FTFY. :icon_smile_wink:

Actually that is what I'm wearing this morning.