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I am afraid that I have committed what probably passes for a cardinal sin on these fora and purchased an extremely cheap (and I am sure probably very poorly made) suit and I just wanted to see if people on this forum thought that I had made a wise move or not. I had better explain...

I am a student, and this obviously requires a great deal of drinking and general high-spiritedness, which obbviously can all end up taking its toll on suits. I have a few good quality suits courtesy of the parents, and another being made at the moment, but I am always a little anxious lest they end up being stained by alcohol or vomit etc as a result of the hard living university lifestyle. Yet I also want to look awesome. I recently then decided to spend a cheeky £40 on a suit from HandM (for those who don't know, this is a cheapy UK high street shop; I went around all the high street shops to find a cheap suit that would fit as near to perfectly as possible). It fits like a glove (though the trousers have a very short rise for my liking, however I have now rather grown accustomed to it and think they look alright), and the coat had only a single vent, where normally I would prefer two. It looks good on, and I am no longer to have to worry about ruining a good suit while on wild nights in Oxford.

On the other hand however, I now worry rather that people will twig that I am wearing an incredibly (indeed, considering the manufacturing etc, and the horrible conditions it was no doubt carried out in, obscenely) cheap suit. It is made of viscose and polyester...:cry: Enough said, surely. I am ashamed and embarrassed to admit that I have put some hand stitching in on the lapels and pockets, which now look quite similar to better quality otr and tailor-made stuff I have, and I have even put on a flower loop:aportnoy:. Also, as soon as I am back in college I am going to pop to Ede and Ravenscroft and order up some horn buttons to replace all the horrid plastic ones the nasty cheap thing has come with.

Well, what I suppose I want to know is, is this a good idea, or would I be better just being careful and using good suits? Is it that easy to tell a cheap suit, even when it fits very well (seriosuly, I spent hours going around the high street trying on cheap suits; certainly a new experience for me!), the details such as buttons and stitching have been changed and it is worn with high quality shirts and ties and shoes (these I will not skimp on! Indeed, I have heard it said many times that a good pair of goodyear welted shoes in a nice leather, when worn with an inexpensive suit, are capable of fooling many into believing the suit is better than it is; does anyone here believe this to be the case I wonder?). Is there any way to prevent the cheap and nasty fabric from going shiny, or will this happen whatever, and if so, over how long? I suppose too that, as it will obviously have been fused, to dry clean the thing a few times will probably wreck it, so it will have short lifespan anyway. Also, is there any way beyond the ways which I have cunningly thought of to further disguise the suit's insalubrious provenance?

Thanks very much, Hope my rather rambling and sordid story did not disgust you sartorialists too greatly,

H
 

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"Viscose and polyester" !!! My hands tremble on the keyboard. Do not spend any more money and time trying to tart this suit up (or down?) Place this suit on a hanger. Keep it in your closet as sober (not to say taunting) lesson. Then, go to a good store which sells better second hand clothing (We call these "consignment shops" here in the States) and find an interesting used suit. If you are lucky you will find one properly broken in. It will have its own cachet, which you can embellish at your whim ("My uncle had planned to be buried in it, but he was lost at sea.") This will only enhance its utility as a "drinking suit" or whatever.
 

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You obviously have good taste, based on your descriptions (and despite your purchase). Look at it this way: at least one night a year it will be very dark and raining (or snowing) and you need to go out. You know you're going to a dark pub and nobody will know the difference. You're going to ruin whatever you wear. But, you don't want to ruin a good suit. It may be once a year, but you have a Designated Vomit Suit (DVS) specifically made for that once in a lifetime occasion. As long as you don't wear it more than once a year, it won't go shiny. Don't beat yourself up.

But I wouldn't make a habit of it either.

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Do not spend any more money and time trying to tart this suit up (or down?)
Agreed. Search ebay and you can find a very good suit for a good price. I just picked up a nice Hickey Freeman suit for 40 USD using "Buy It Now." With a little searching, you will be able to pick up an expensive suit more worthy of your vomit. :icon_smile_wink:
 

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While modern manufactured fibers have improved a lot, there's really no substitute for wool. There have to be manufacturers' outlet stores there, I should think, where you might expect to find something discontinued but nice. Used is good in its way, but finding something with sufficiently current styling might be tough; especially something that fits you.

Bicester Village is 10 miles from Oxford, and has Aquascutum, Brooks Bros., Dolce et Gabbana, Hugo Boss, etc., etc. With seasonal clearances and such, you could get very, very lucky there, or at comparable locations.

Here's a tip: Stagecoach offer a daily service approximately every half hour to Bicester Village from Magdalen Street in Oxford (outside Debenhams).
 

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Anyone who drinks to the point of vomiting ....

on their clothes is not just a boisterous student, but a complete idiot. If you were my son, you would be pulled out of school, and have to find a job and see what it's like to work at hard labor for a while. Or better yet, made to enlist in the royal army where your vomit suits would be made for you by the taxpayers.
 

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I am afraid that I have committed what probably passes for a cardinal sin on these fora and purchased an extremely cheap (and I am sure probably very poorly made) suit and I just wanted to see if people on this forum thought that I had made a wise move or not. I had better explain...

I am a student, and this obviously requires a great deal of drinking and general high-spiritedness, which obbviously can all end up taking its toll on suits. I have a few good quality suits courtesy of the parents, and another being made at the moment, but I am always a little anxious lest they end up being stained by alcohol or vomit etc as a result of the hard living university lifestyle. Yet I also want to look awesome. I recently then decided to spend a cheeky £40 on a suit from HandM (for those who don't know, this is a cheapy UK high street shop; I went around all the high street shops to find a cheap suit that would fit as near to perfectly as possible). It fits like a glove (though the trousers have a very short rise for my liking, however I have now rather grown accustomed to it and think they look alright), and the coat had only a single vent, where normally I would prefer two. It looks good on, and I am no longer to have to worry about ruining a good suit while on wild nights in Oxford.

On the other hand however, I now worry rather that people will twig that I am wearing an incredibly (indeed, considering the manufacturing etc, and the horrible conditions it was no doubt carried out in, obscenely) cheap suit. It is made of viscose and polyester...:cry: Enough said, surely. I am ashamed and embarrassed to admit that I have put some hand stitching in on the lapels and pockets, which now look quite similar to better quality otr and tailor-made stuff I have, and I have even put on a flower loop:aportnoy:. Also, as soon as I am back in college I am going to pop to Ede and Ravenscroft and order up some horn buttons to replace all the horrid plastic ones the nasty cheap thing has come with.

Well, what I suppose I want to know is, is this a good idea, or would I be better just being careful and using good suits? Is it that easy to tell a cheap suit, even when it fits very well (seriosuly, I spent hours going around the high street trying on cheap suits; certainly a new experience for me!), the details such as buttons and stitching have been changed and it is worn with high quality shirts and ties and shoes (these I will not skimp on! Indeed, I have heard it said many times that a good pair of goodyear welted shoes in a nice leather, when worn with an inexpensive suit, are capable of fooling many into believing the suit is better than it is; does anyone here believe this to be the case I wonder?). Is there any way to prevent the cheap and nasty fabric from going shiny, or will this happen whatever, and if so, over how long? I suppose too that, as it will obviously have been fused, to dry clean the thing a few times will probably wreck it, so it will have short lifespan anyway. Also, is there any way beyond the ways which I have cunningly thought of to further disguise the suit's insalubrious provenance?

Thanks very much, Hope my rather rambling and sordid story did not disgust you sartorialists too greatly,

H
Dude, your in University. Most kids in your situation (read here me when I was in school) didn't have mommy and daddy to provide them with fine, handmade, bespoke goods. In fact, most people on this planet, whether they know any better or not, can not afford any "better" than what you look down your nose upon, while grasping firmly to your silver spoon.

I find it far more becoming of you that you actually purchased this H&M suit, and took the time and effort to put the little handstitched details on it yourself. Sure you can go out and get something second hand, and that would be alright too, but if you look down on the H&M suit, I'm sure your feelings won't change about someone else's clothing.

Look, I don't want to sound like an angry socialist, I'm really not that angry, but for your position in school, and for what you need the attire for, an H&M suit tricked out is just fine.
 

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I will not walk into H&M, forget purchasing something from there.

My advice: take it easy on the alcohol and save some money towards a suit - at the moment, you can get a decent ready-to-wear suit for £350-400.
 

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Personally I really like H&M, I think there clothes are very slim fitting which is nice for someone who is very slim and is 27. I wouldn't expect them to last more than 1-2 years, but off the rack they fit very closely to me and I don't think many of their items look bad. It is definitely much better than say target or wal-mart who they most closely compete with in my opinion. And maybe even better than Macy's for the younger crowd.
 

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on their clothes is not just a boisterous student, but a complete idiot. If you were my son, you would be pulled out of school, and have to find a job and see what it's like to work at hard labor for a while. Or better yet, made to enlist in the royal army where your vomit suits would be made for you by the taxpayers.
Erm. What's the "Royal Army"?
 

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Unlike other posters here I strongly encourage you to vomit on that suit.


...I think its Dow Chemical but maybe its 3M who make a product called "Scotchguard", it prevents stains on furniture and carpet. I would get some and spray it on that suit, front and back (in case you fall). Not only will it guard against stains, it will guard against scotch as well. Avoid getting "glassed" in it however as that could ruin the shirt underneath it.


Best of luck! Add buttons to it, put some elbow patches on it, swap the lining out for something day-glo, cut the collar into a nehru ...then try to return it.
 

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on their clothes is not just a boisterous student, but a complete idiot. If you were my son, you would be pulled out of school, and have to find a job and see what it's like to work at hard labor for a while. Or better yet, made to enlist in the royal army where your vomit suits would be made for you by the taxpayers.
I find it very difficult not to agree. Some kids don't realize how lucky they are to be able to go to college.
 

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Wow, so many replies so quickly!

Hi again!

First of all I must just say that I am very sorry, I certainly didn't mean to sound snobby or spoiled re the suit, it's just that, I don't know, it really isn't the H&M factor that is the problem, more the viscose and polyester... Yeah. I guess I go on this site too much; my mind seems to have been turned against that sort of thing!

Oh, and I do get a lot of stuff second hand (charity shopping in Royal Tunbridge Wells, can't beat it! Much good stuff floating around... Found a great double breasted dj the other week actually :icon_smile:), it's just that it's only very rarely that I can find things which fit me, and when I do, they tend to be too nice to want to risk spilling things on. Thinking about it, most of the best stuff I have comes from charity shops or ebay...

Second, wow, I feel that I should probably mention that I was very definitely being flippant about the whole vomit thing, that really doesn't happen (in fact, the college promses to lay on a pretty hefty fine if it were to!), am only really concerned about the potential spilling of (not necessarily alcoholic by the way!) drinks and food rather than bodily fluids, sorry to distract from the issue there!:cool:
 

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I think you're lucky to have a suit that fits perfectly. If this is so, then you can use it as a template - get a Hong Kong tailor to copy it using better materials.
 

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on their clothes is not just a boisterous student, but a complete idiot. If you were my son, you would be pulled out of school, and have to find a job and see what it's like to work at hard labor for a while. Or better yet, made to enlist in the royal army where your vomit suits would be made for you by the taxpayers.
Yes, but the more important fact is... he's not your kid.
 

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I'm no fan of polyester but unless you're getting (negative) comments about the fabric I wouldn't worry about it. No, it won't last as long as wool but you'll be done with this in a few years anyway. In the meantime you can enjoy easier maintenance, less wrinkling, and peace of mind of not wrecking a quality garment.

While I wouldn't pour more money into the suit, I do like your idea of new buttons - provided you're going to affix them yourself. It will be good practice for emergency button replacement in the future and you can always harvest the buttons before disposing of the suit.

Cheers!
 
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