[yoolykeme]

(yes, I know that you probably clicked on this thread to yell at me, but please don't =)

I have a fly-front tux, and want to wear it. Yes, I want to be fashion-forward, because, I'm going to such an event. I just wanted to know if mandarin-collared shirts were only for the tuxedos of the same name.

Thanks in advance!

 

[omanae]

My inclination would be to say that you can't wear them together. However it would help if you can post a picture of the proposed ensemble to see the button stance and also post what event your going to.

Thanks

 

[manuduenas]

I think Mandarin collared shirts go with "Mandarin tuxedos", wearing them with a regular tux would look strange.

manuduenas

 

[yoolykeme]

I'm wearing it with this....i'm pretty tall and skinny. I think that you can see why I think a mandarin collar would work. If not, what's the corresponding vest and tie combo in that pic?

https://www.formalsonly.net/tuxrentalbg/pierreslide.htm

The event is the Green Tie Ball here in Chicago. It's something of a charity event for the trendy and the quasi-celebrities in the area.

Here are some pics from last year.....

As you can see, a departing from a traditional black tie stance is normal here. If anything, I'll be more closely dressed towards normal black tie standards, than a good amount of people there.

thanks!

 

[omanae]

I think that would look best with a turn down collar and tie. I think the wing collar shown looks bad, and I'm afraid a mandarin collar would as well. Most of the people in the pictures looked like they were wearing bad prom leftovers, the key is to be different, trendy, but not cheesy.

 

[Orsini]

(yes, I know that you probably clicked on this thread to yell at me, but please don't =)

I have a fly-front tux, and want to wear it. Yes, I want to be fashion-forward, because, I'm going to such an event. I just wanted to know if mandarin-collared shirts were only for the tuxedos of the same name.

Thanks in advance!

Personally, I go for Classic Gentlemen's Style (ta-daaaa!) as described by Roetzel, Molloy, Flusser, Keers, et al. that allows me to projects the image of a wealthy, sophisticated and mature flâneur or boulevardier, so what you describe is probably not for me. I am too old for that, anyway...

I don't know who Mandrake was or that he had invented his own collar (you aren't talking abut Eric Glennie, are you?), but it seems to me that if you will be operating in a contemporary or fashion-forward mode and are determined to use that type of collar anyway, all bets are off and you can do as you please.

Just look at it and do what looks good to you. Probably none of the folks at this party have ever heard of Roetzel and will not know the difference anyway. Only a wardrobe geek would notice and I am sure they would be much too polite to mention it at all.

On the other hand, if you ever manage to wrangle an invitation to a ball that will be attended by visiting royalty, I suggest the most traditional set-up you can put together.

 

[Flanderian]

Only if you are a Mandarin.

 

[yoolykeme]

well, I am Asian by descent, though not Chinese....

 

[Flanderian]

well, I am Asian by descent, though not Chinese....

Tilt!

 

[yoolykeme]

oooh, can I wear a wing collar and an ascot with this? or maybe a cravat?

 

[Orsini]

oooh, can I wear a wing collar and an ascot with this? or maybe a cravat?

You can if you want to, I guess... (I was just kidding about "Mandrake")

 

[Cardcaptor Charlie]

Well, I suppose you could wear a Mandarin jacket and a shirt with a Mandarin collar (no tie), which would render you into the realms of the Japanese schoolboy look...

I suppose you can wear anything you want since this event seems rather informal (bordering on smart-casual). I would avoid the wing collar cravat combo as it is as far from traditional black tie as you can get (esp. with the 'tux' you are describing).

I'm British-Chinese BTW.

 

[trims]

oooh, can I wear a wing collar and an ascot with this? or maybe a cravat?

No. It's going to look like you were trying way too hard.

 

[David V]

Wear a white turtleneck with a large gold peace symbol on a gold chain. Fashion Forward to the 70's.

 

[Literide]

Why not be real edgy and wear correct semi-formal wear.
Or, judging by the rest of the crowd, you really dont kneed to wear more than a sprort jacket w/o a tie.

 

[Holdfast]

(yes, I know that you probably clicked on this thread to yell at me, but please don't =)

I have a fly-front tux, and want to wear it. Yes, I want to be fashion-forward, because, I'm going to such an event. I just wanted to know if mandarin-collared shirts were only for the tuxedos of the same name.

Thanks in advance!

It won't be traditionally "correct" but if it works for you, knock yourself out.

My biggest hesitation re: doing this wouldn't be the "rules", but rather the risk of it looking too much like the sort of black tie gear Steven Seagal sometimes wore in the mid/late 90s... not exactly one of my style role models.