[Spooter]

these are awesome khakis!:icon_cheers: I like the detail of the close together belt loops in the front. Looks very authentic to me.:icon_smile_big:

 

[eagle2250]

Great looking pair of khakis...thanks for posting, familyman. As observed by a few others, the maximum 35" waist pretty much eliminates any further consideration of a pair of Buzz Ricksons in my future. Guess I'll have to stick with Bill's, if I want khakis with a button front, prewashed or not.

 

[Doctor Damage]

When taking photos of un-hemmed pants, simply turn them up on the outside to the right length. It will look like you are wearing 12" cuffs, but the pants will hang right.

 

[familyman]

I like them a lot.

 

[paper clip]

family,

Those look like kick-a** pants.

 

[jeph]

Familyman,

You look great!

jeph

 

[Markus]

Hmmm. Have you found the model for vendors who want to sell expensive khakis?

Familyman,

I've eaten up your photos of the buzz ricksons. All of them. What a treat, the cool package in the mail from Japan, with the cool Rakutan bag. Very evocative. And I totally follow your logic through which you have made the expenditure of $130 US on a pair of khakis seem completely reasonable. Where do I sign up? I think I'm saved from this possibility by the fact that I require a 37 waist. That, plus I'm too, mmmmmm thrift conscious (and wife conscious) to be comfortable following your lead.

But perhaps I'm wrong. Perhaps you're not far off. After all, didn't we read earlier this year about makers wanting to figure out a way to charge more for khakis? Certainly the interior finish of those BR's has got to count for something. Lovely.

So, to any of you manufacturers out there who are lurking on this board (Misterman?) take notice of the attention paid to these ne-plus-ultra khakis. And what it is (not being pre-washed, for one thing, thank you very much) that has so many of us interested, curious and waiting, with baited breath, for the next report. (I suppose it will be post hemming, post washing & drying. And I suppose you may need to discuss the exact dimensions of the cuff here, before finalizing your instruction to your tailor...) :>)

And your hair and spirit of individual self expression? I wouldn't have it any other way: Pure Trad.

Sign me,

Curiouser and curiouser

 

[EastVillageTrad]

(I suppose it will be post hemming, post washing & drying. And I suppose you may need to discuss the exact dimensions of the cuff here, before finalizing your instruction to your tailor...) :>)

FamilyMan,

If you want to stay truly authentic to your reproduction and carry the ethos of those post-war co-eds that wore army surplus you should really go uncuffed on these. The Army in WWII never cuffed issue pants for enlistedmen and still hasn't/doesn't for Class A or B uniforms.

I say uncuffed.

Regards,

R.B.W.

p.s. I will try and photo some of those original trousers in the next few days. - r

 

[familyman]

I'm probably going to hem them uncuffed when sitting at the designed for near navel height. I'm going to do the hems long though so when I'm just wearing them around with a sweatshirt all casual like I can do turnups that still look nice. Thanks for your advice Squad, your knowledge of the real deal is useful. Also looking forward to the pictures.

 

[paper clip]

Update?

Hi Familyman,

We are missing you around here!

Wondering if you have any kind of update or new pics of those awesome Buzz Rickson Khakis you bought back in October.

Kindly favor us with an update!

Best wishes,

 

[familyman]

I've just been wearing them off and on. My spreadsheet shows 8 wearings so far. I still haven't hemmed them, I'll get around to it eventually, for now I just cuff them and wear them with my Russells. I would have worn them more but I didn't take them deer hunting or on vacation because they're still my 'good' khakis and I'm trying to be a bit gentle as far as getting them very dirty.

 

[GMC]

Does anybody recall the Bean chinos of yore?

They made them the same way up through the late 80s, if memory serves: Military cut, thick, big belt loops. They were actually a bit like the old Brooks chinos, except the latter were a closer fit. Anyway, the Beans were the real deal, I thought. How come nobody makes a nice $30 chino these days that actually looks like those? I know about Bills, but given the money at home these days I'd feel bad spending money on them. If money were no object I'd buy the Japanese repros that Familyman now sports.

 

[Markus]

How come nobody makes a nice $30 chino these days that actually looks like those?

Actually, somebody does. It's just not a store that anybody thinks very highly of. That store is...Old Navy.

Right now I'm sportin' a pair of their so-called super khakis or ultimate khakis. Purists will disdain these because the cotton is treated so they don't wrinkle and don't stain. Oh well. I really like them. They are only $25. The oppty to pull them straight from the dryer, not have to fuss over them, worry about excessive shrinkage or needing to iron 'em up is too much for me to pass up.

Markus
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The connoiseur of mainly cheap khakis.

 

[paper clip]

They made them the same way up through the late 80s, if memory serves: Military cut, thick, big belt loops. They were actually a bit like the old Brooks chinos, except the latter were a closer fit. Anyway, the Beans were the real deal, I thought. How come nobody makes a nice $30 chino these days that actually looks like those? I know about Bills, but given the money at home these days I'd feel bad spending money on them. If money were no object I'd buy the Japanese repros that Familyman now sports.

I truly apologize to those who must think I am a broken record on this subject, but ebayed Bills Khakis (search your waist size + 1 and the word "Bill" in the pants section of ebay) run from $30-40 per pair, plus shipping and alterations, you're looking at $45-$55 for a fantastic pair of khakis in your exact size.

 

[Mattdeckard]

More accurate than Bill's from what i have seen... they even have the flat felled seams along the legs.


Now how do I get a pair in the US?

 

[Doctor Damage]

Not sure the wide belt loops are authentic, see the thread on military chinos. If anything, the pants described in the OPH are more accurate.

DocD

 

[The Continental Fop]

I've seen the Old Navy "Super Khakis" and while an impressive chino for 25 bucks the slant front pockets are a deal breaker for me. I'm sure I don't have to apologize for being a moldy fig on an OCD forum, but to me, chinos have on-seam pockets or else they're not chinos, they're jean-like pants made of chino material.

Peter

Actually, somebody does. It's just not a store that anybody thinks very highly of. That store is...Old Navy.

Right now I'm sportin' a pair of their so-called super khakis or ultimate khakis. Purists will disdain these because the cotton is treated so they don't wrinkle and don't stain. Oh well. I really like them. They are only $25. The oppty to pull them straight from the dryer, not have to fuss over them, worry about excessive shrinkage or needing to iron 'em up is too much for me to pass up.

Markus
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The connoiseur of mainly cheap khakis.

 

[familyman]

I've seen the Old Navy "Super Khakis" and while an impressive chino for 25 bucks the slant front pockets are a deal breaker for me. I'm sure I don't have to apologize for being a moldy fig on an OCD forum, but to me, chinos have on-seam pockets or else they're not chinos, they're jean-like pants made of chino material.

Peter

That may be how you feel, but if you look at military chinos you'll find a slash to the pockets. At least on many of them. There's a big difference between the top of the pockets being one inch off the seams and jeans pockets which are 5 inches off the seams and curved to boot.

 

[The Continental Fop]

Thanks for bringing up military chinos, good point. But personally, I am less concerned with slavish WWII period detail than I am in having pants that look good, and I prefer the way on-seam pockets look on chinos. To me, off-seam pockets on pants other than jeans just looks weird. But what do I know? I have literally cried laughing reading some of the ascot threads. To each his own. I was just pointing out that the aforementioned Old Navy Super Khakis are distinctly different from Bill's/Rickson/etc. high-end chinos in that they have slash pockets, so before guys rush to the site to order them they should consider this.

Peter

That may be how you feel, but if you look at military chinos you'll find a slash to the pockets. At least on many of them. There's a big difference between the top of the pockets being one inch off the seams and jeans pockets which are 5 inches off the seams and curved to boot.