[DukeGrad]

Gentlemen

Beretta is an old firm. Better than Willis and Geiger, Orvis and Filson. And the freaking original Abercormbie. I love their stuff. Have a Barbor, and a John Partridge. Am looking for anothe wax cotton coat. Theyir stuuf looks good, but made international.
This scares me.
It may come to the point I am going with Purdy, oor Holland and Holland.

Any thoughts of their clothings gentlemen

Danka
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[Flanderian]

Gentlemen

Beretta is an old firm. Better than Willis and Geiger, Orvis and Filson. And the freaking original Abercormbie. I love their stuff. Have a Barbor, and a John Partridge. Am looking for anothe wax cotton coat. Theyir stuuf looks good, but made international.
This scares me.
It may come to the point I am going with Purdy, oor Holland and Holland.

Any thoughts of their clothings gentlemen

Danka
Nice weekend.
Ami in the ER now, busy, crazy hourse, lot of drinking times for me.
Nice weekend my friends.
I enjoy all of you.
Except that first, original member that trashed my french friends!!!

Later
Airborne De Oppresso Liber

Most of the waxed cotton that Orvis sells with which I am familiar is Barbor. Their most recent sporting catalog has another hunting coat that isn't waxed, but it very interesting to me. It's a loden cloth coat. True loden cloth is a very useful and durable outdoor fabric that offers significantly more warmth than oilskin. This coat may also have some additional waterproof lining, though I can't recall for certain.

IMO, Barbor is very well made of good materials and stylish. It may be borderline over priced, however. Filson looks to be very durable and well made, but I don't find it that stylish. I also think that quite a few of their coats don't have smooth linings, which would make getting in and out of them problematic.

Beretta guns have a noble history, but I think their clothing is more the result of a desire to expand their markets using their brand identity, and the actual clothing remains somewhat suspect. I have noticed that it appears cut closer than British or American outdoor clothes.

Found it: And while I realize your specific question concerned Beretta, you might find this interesting. It's made in Poland by Rascher, a high quality German manufacturer. And is another take on European gentleman's outdoor wear.

 

[KeithR]

...you might find this interesting. It's made in Poland by Rascher, a high quality German manufacturer. And is another take on European gentleman's outdoor wear.

I like that one. Thanks for the link.

 

[David Bresch]

Beretta is awful awful awful, except for some special items sold only in their boutiques. A non-starter, trust me. A shame too, I love the aesthetic as much as the next arm chair explorer.

 

[JLAnderson]

A question for Flanderian

Found it: And while I realize your specific question concerned Beretta, you might find this interesting. It's made in Poland by Rascher, a high quality German manufacturer. And is another take on European gentleman's outdoor wear.

I had just been looking at that Rascher loden hunting jacket the other day and placed it in my shopping cart, but hesitated at pulling the trigger/clicking the mouse.

Have you seen it in person or know anything of its quality of construction?

And also for the original Beretta questioner, Orvis has its Beretta tweed shooting jacket on sale for $499, but it's still way overpriced IMHO.

 

[suitsyousir]

Damn, the title is misleading. I thought this would be about firing pistol rounds into jackets and sweaters.

 

[Flanderian]

I had just been looking at that Rascher loden hunting jacket the other day and placed it in my shopping cart, but hesitated at pulling the trigger/clicking the mouse.

Have you seen it in person or know anything of its quality of construction?

And also for the original Beretta questioner, Orvis has its Beretta tweed shooting jacket on sale for $499, but it's still way overpriced IMHO.

No, sorry, I haven't seen it in person. I suspect it's of fairly good quality. Rascher is a well-respected sporting brand in Germany, and while there are exceptions, most of the things I've experienced of German manufacture are of pretty good quality. It's pricey, but considering the Euro, not surprising. Another thing of interest is that other Rascher products that had been sold by Orvis and had gone on sale, were not discounted as steeply as other merchandise. This suggests to me that Orvis doesn't have as much of a margin on it as some of their other merchandise. I've even seen top line Barbor coats discounted as mcuh as 50% in their outlet stores.

 

[SartoNYC]

Awful, awful, awful

David Bresch says it above. Guns are fine, but shooting clothing is awful. As a resident of NYC I stop in often enough at the Madison Avenue Gallery. The field clothing is all made in Asia and I would rank it lower than Orvis, and certainly lower than Filson. These last two are made for function by people that actually use the stuff, Beretta hired a top marketing guy from Orvis who is trying to get them into the same demographic segment, i.e. lower/middle market USA, and they are copying designs not actually field testing the stuff themselves and then modifying and improving. The first floor of the NYC store is Madison Avenue clothing, which might fit the bill for "apres shoot" if you are at a toney shooting club. If you are looking for really good quality stuff for English style shoots, got to Cordings or British Sporting Arms, in my humble opinion Holland & Holland or Purdey are terrifically overpriced for the same stuff. Looking for another waxed cotton jacket, the best of 19th Century technology, visit the ebay store of Yorkshire Country Gentleman. If you are looking to order tweed and have a shooting suit made for yourself PM me an I will forward you the name of a man who can take care of that for you.

Thanks.

 

[nobody]

Poor Quality

I bought a jacket from their catalogue last year - the styling was fairly nice, but the materials and construction leave a *lot* to be desired. Well below the barbours I have. I'd steer clear.

 

[budrichard]

Both Purdey or Holland are extremely overpriced but if you have a new Purdey or Holland to go along with your clothing then you shouldn't care.
Beretta sourced in Italy and available in thier boutique stores is extremely well made and I have a Beretta hunting suit with vest out of a Loden that is simply outstanding. Barbour makes very serviceable hunting attire and many of thier sport coats have a wind barrier and/or a flap that buttons across your chest which is quite useful if you really use the stuff. I have a couple of Barbour sport coats with this feature and for the money they can't be beat but the material is not as fine as a more expensive garment.
If you want a truly luxurious hunting coat, consider Bob Ermilio at Ermilio Custom Clothiers, who just made me a MTM hunting sport coat of a wool/cashmere blend that is as nice as any I have or have seen including Purdey and Holland. He also makes bespoke at about 3x that cost of MTM.-Dick

 

[Simon]

I doubt that anyone on here has ever seen or worn "Barbor".

Doh, there I go again:icon_smile_wink: Hell, it's only 3000 miles:icon_smile: