I don't accept your premise.

 

It's not fashionable. It's shabby.

 

I don't mind them in very casual situations especially outdoors in the summer. Much as we may want every one in straw hats and fedoras, it's not going to happen in 2013.

Ball caps are out of place, to me, when you have a jacket and tie on and are not even that good of an option with the higher ends of casual clothing. That said, I frequently walk for exercise on my lunch break. In the summer, I wear it to keep the sun off; occasionally, when it's colder and I don't have another hat, I'll wear it for a bit of warmth, but only while I'm outside (or in a convenience store or something.

 

I never meant that I thought they are fashionable. I think they're slovenly except at ballgames or golfing. But they seem to have become the fashion norm in US as judged by their ubiquitous appearance in all social settings, regardless of the dress.
They also seem to attract ill fitting shorts, bizarre t-shirts and white socks with sneakers or sandals. A complete abomination

 

there's a time and place for ball caps, so I can't get down on them too much. Besides, how is a baseball cap any worse than a fedora or some other headwear?


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There are those that show your teams allegiance, others are walking billboards, but worst of all are the ones with inane emblems or statements. They don't enhance a look like a Fedora or other hat, and besides hats of any kind are making a tenuous comeback at best, so can only be pulled off by someone who knows what he's doing.

 

Ball caps keep the sun out of your eyes if you wear it right. Putting the thing on backwards only makes you look like an ass and wearing such a game-centered and ueber-casual hat with dressier clothes only increases the impression.

 

Baseball caps have their place (baseball games, the beach, grocery shopping), but they shouldn't be worn to work, church, dinner, the opera, etc.

 

Ball caps keep the sun out of your eyes if you wear it right. Putting the thing on backwards only makes you look like an ass and wearing such a game-centered and ueber-casual hat with dressier clothes only increases the impression.

This!

 

The only exception to my almost complete loathing of caps with logos on them is when I see one emblazoned with "Korean War Veteran" or the like. The gentleman I picture as I write this wears his with a sportcoat... and I wouldn't dream of criticizing the look.

 

The only exception to my almost complete loathing of caps with logos on them is when I see one emblazoned with "Korean War Veteran" or the like. The gentleman I picture as I write this wears his with a sportcoat... and I wouldn't dream of criticizing the look.

We're different.

I, like all Americans, owe a debt of gratitude to all those brave men who served, but guys who wear ball caps every day with their veteran status plastered all over them are a lot like those who pray in public. It's unseemly, and I don't mind saying so. (This isn't true when they wear those hats on Veterans Day or to their local VFW, which are absolutely appropriate venues for them. But not when they go out to buy milk at Wal-Mart.)

 

I happen to think A bright red hat with an StL logo on the front looks great with just about anything. Especially in October. Even a suit sans jacket with tie at a business mans special in 100 degree heat.

 

Baseball caps really have limited usefulness.

They don't fully protect from the sun.

Since shaving my head 2 years ago, I've acquired 4 custom fedoras and one Borsalino. 2 custom Panamas, a Tesi Panama, a Borsalino Cuenca straw, 2 straws from Panama Bob, and some other flat caps.

I wear a Tilly on the golf course. I will wear a baseball cap exercising but thats about it.
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I, like all Americans, owe a debt of gratitude to all those brave men who served, but guys who wear ball caps every day with their veteran status plastered all over them are a lot like those who pray in public. It's unseemly, and I don't mind saying so.

Someone who has served for our country and risked their lives for our freedom can do whatever they damn well please....and you should mind saying so. Show some respect.

 

I don't think that Maxbuck intended any disrespect. It is merely an opinion of an action. My father fought in Vietnam and Korea and he doesn't understand the Veteran Wear fashion trend either. He knows of one guy who wears a ballcap emblazoned with a battleship's name that the man has never served on. It is infuriating to my dad, but, like here, I tell him to let it go. Let God sort them out.

 

We're different.

I, like all Americans, owe a debt of gratitude to all those brave men who served, but guys who wear ball caps every day with their veteran status plastered all over them are a lot like those who pray in public. It's unseemly, and I don't mind saying so. (This isn't true when they wear those hats on Veterans Day or to their local VFW, which are absolutely appropriate venues for them. But not when they go out to buy milk at Wal-Mart.)

I respect your opinion and I will once again play the Florida card. I think a gentleman should keep his coat on all day, but no one does here because it's summer nine months of the year. I wince when I see caps worn inside but the sun is blinding....

 

If the rest of the outfit is similarly very casual, and the cap isn't horrible, I can't find much fault with them. Wouldn't wear one myself unless gardening, going sailing or similar.

They have a greater statistical chance of working than a Fedora.

 

I don't think that Maxbuck intended any disrespect. It is merely an opinion of an action.

This.

I have immense respect for the individuals who served, whether they "obey my sartorial dictates" or not. And when I said, "I don't mind saying so," I should've clarified that I'd never say that to them, in their earshot, or about any one of them specifically. Just wish they wouldn't do it.

 

I served twenty-nine years and the only time I wear a veteran/military ballcap is when I'm either out walking the dog or at the rifle range. The former is just because that's the cap that hangs next to the leash.:icon_smile_big:

 

I happen to think A navy blue hat with a Boston logo on the front looks great with just about anything. Especially in October. Even a suit sans jacket with tie at a business mans special in 100 degree heat.

FTFY!

 

Although I can't explain the popularity of caps among today's general public, it did get me thinking about why I still wear caps. In the late 80s, I remember caps were part of the preppy, outdoorsman look prevalent in the Deep South; on some campuses, this remains the standard. In my day, it was Duck Head khakis, dirty bucks, and "unstructured," long-billed caps that guys intentionally curved. We tried to find caps with the lowest possible profile, akin to the Ivy-leaguers who had to have the softest shouldered jackets. Tops varied depending on the season, but guys wore short-sleeved polos, long-sleeved twills, the occasional flannel, and ocbd's.

As a side note, in August 1987-- my first day of college-- I had to meet with the university registrar. I remember it vividly because he wore a navy blazer, ocbd, red tie, khakis, and a ball cap. I later learned this was no stunt; he wore a coat, tie, and ball cap every day, for no other reason than personal preference. If you attend an SEC football game, you will see the look on men young and old. While I won't go that far, there are occasions when I will wear a cap outdoors with khakis/cords and a button-down shirt. Ivy-leaguers can keep their plaid pants, I prefer my go-to-hell southern-fried.

 

I happen to think A bright red hat with an StL logo on the front looks great with just about anything. Especially in October. Even a suit sans jacket with tie at a business mans special in 100 degree heat.

Pretty accurate, although I feel that Olde English "D"s are far more fashionable!!!

 

I served twenty-nine years and the only time I wear a veteran/military ballcap is when I'm either out walking the dog or at the rifle range. The former is just because that's the cap that hangs next to the leash.:icon_smile_big:

But why would you, or any other former military person, want one?

 

But why would you, or any other former military person, want one?

Oh, the hat dates from when I was in service. My reserve unit all bought them as 'morale caps' back in the day. It was a military fad. The Pentagon disapproved of our wearing them in place of the camo cap so they got retired. Mine just shows the SOCOM patch on the front and has my name embroidered across the back. It helps keep the early morning sun out of my eyes and gets respect at the range. Beats the hell out of some of the outrageous western hats some guys wear there. Add the stupid straw cowboy hat to some of the even stupider things they say and, well, I'm just glad the range master keeps a tight eye on things. Some people are worrisome . . .

 

I wear ball caps all the time in the sun - I'm lacking coverage...and I'm pale. To paraphrase Woody Allen, I don't tan, I stroke.

I have casual ones for running around in, dri-fit ones for exercising outdoors, and a helmet liner for my bike helmet so that I don't get 'griddle marks' from the sun shining through.

I HAVE started to pick up some decent 'real' hats, though. I have a nice Panama that I got down in San Juan, a wool driving cap that I got in Dublin, and a Gore-Tex driving cap with drop down ear flaps for battening down against really foul weather. That being said, after having picked up a cheapie straw fedora in NYC while we were up there (and it lasted about as long as the price would indicate), I'm starting to look at 'real' hats for when I'm dressed up. Here's the first acquisition:

Resistol 990 beaver felt fedora - It's a quick shot with my iPhone, and it makes me look Blues Brother-ish, but it's a really nice hat, and fits me perfectly. Now I'm on the lookout for a nice gray fedora or Trilby, and a straw or two.